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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ sicklyman Yes, agreed:-) In fact, we could discuss what quals are effectively useful in such a context, and they wouldn't include grad work at all, I think;-)

@lion No, dude. This is, as nomadsoul says, 'easy breezy' for most people to figure out; it is extremely basic. I doubt the thread will inform anyone who is seriously considering the quals needed to work in KSA.

Frankly, most people contemplating MA or PhD work have the brains to figure this very basic stuff out without undue stress or resorting to requests for obvious info on online forums.
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lion101



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The other thing I wanted to know is if you guys think a phd in pure linguistics can get you a job teaching the ma tesol or applied linguistic programs. this job posting http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=39032 makes it seem like linguistics phd holders can teach the ma tesol courses. It makes sense because if you look at the ma tesol/applied linguistics programs, half of the classes are on pure linguistics. Also I know of many tesol programs who's coordinators are phd holders in linguistics.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seriously? The ink has barely dried on your BA.
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lion101



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You do make a good point but I am currently applying to several programs, and there are some that offer an ma and phd with funding so that is why I am interested.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Again, no one can say what qualifications will be required nor what positions will be available 5+ years from now, especially given the government's nitaqat initiative. Moreover, you apparently ignored the following at the top of this page:

spiral78 wrote:
Frankly, most people contemplating MA or PhD work have the brains to figure this very basic stuff out without undue stress or resorting to requests for obvious info on online forums.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
spiral78 wrote:
The idea of jumping from a new BA immediately to an MA and then to a PhD is unrealistic enough to emit serious troll-stench, frankly.

It makes no sense financially [...]

I'm surprised to hear you say that. Actually, it is quite common to go directly from a BA to MA to PhD. Not always the recommended route, but I wouldn't call it unrealistic by any means. Of course, I have no first hand knowledge of whether that would result in employment in Saudi Arabia (and neither do you, I am guessing).

Many graduate programs in the US are fully funded, providing a tuition waiver and stipend, so I would not necessarily say that it makes no sense financially, either (I didn't pay a dime for any of my graduate degrees, didn't dip into my savings, and have no loans).

I'm not saying that the OP's plan is the best, but that it isn't as ridiculous as some are saying.
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Makkah



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: ma or phd in linguistics Reply with quote
lion101 wrote:
Would a ma or phd in linguistics be sufficient for the "good" jobs or does it have to be in applied linguistics. I ask this because a lot of the job postings say applied linguistics but most of the graduate programs I see in the U.S. are in Linguistics.


What is your definition of a 'good' job? Great, motivated students with possibility for you to gain good exp. that would really mean something back in the real world or simply money?
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paul.conlong



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's all about the money, money makes the world go round. Surprised
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