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Opportunities in Asia for a non-native speaker?
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knedliki wrote:
With a TOEFL/IELTS (don't know what score you need ) and a degree you could work legally in Thailand.

IELTS - 5.5
TOEIC - 600
TOEFL - depends on which version of the test you take.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astronamix wrote:
Many provinces in China now require that applicants be educated in native English speaking countries.

Which provinces exactly?

I know Shanghai does for English teachers, but I can't speak for any others. Some schools in Shanghai can get around this by classifying their teachers as subject teachers, but they need an education license that states which subjects they can offer. I have never known a school in China to offer philosophy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to add that I just left a job in Kazakhstan where one of the English teachers was Italian. The company actually had a Dutch teacher on staff prior. (I do not recommend working for that particular company, though - it's a horrible environment.)

So, clearly, being a non-native speaker with a non-Anglophone passport doesn't automatically exclude you from most destinations. Also, it's not as if Kazakhstan is a particularly popular destination with the English-teaching crowd. There's a bit of an correlation relationship with this... the less popular the region is, the less likely they are to be picky about passport color.

I do very strongly recommend you get a CELTA, though. Even for native speakers it does help, particularly if you have no prior experience. What the CELTA does is give your potential employer a guarantee that you at least have stepped foot in an English classroom at some point in your life, and it also tells them that you have been exposed to a popularly-accepted methodology. I do see that you have some sort of TEFL certification as it is, but CELTA is basically considered the gold standard of TEFL certs, for better or worse. Again, being a non-native speaker is going to work against you as it is. As other posters suggested, you need to pump your resume as much as possible.

Beyond this, I am pretty sure that South Korea actually does require its English teachers to come from English-language-primary countries. (I have not worked there myself, but that fact sticks in my head.) In other places... well, it generally just depends on how badly they need somebody/if you look like you'll fit their needs.

Basically, I would say that you would have a high chance of trumping a native English speaker with no bachelor's and no CELTA. I would say your chances are medium against a NES with a bachelor's and no CELTA. Once a NES appears with a bachelor's and a CELTA, though, your chances go down.

What I would recommend is looking in less-popular areas for your first job - the pickings will be slimmer there and you will look more attractive to potential employers. Once you get some good references going and have experience, you can start edging your way into more popular markets. [/i]
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