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[Badmojo]

I hear that in order to get a Z visa now, the visa has to be processed in the home country of the applicant.

Except I have zero interest in going home to do it.

Let's say I have all my documents for the work visa prepared. Could I go to Hong Kong for five or six days and mail my passport and forms back home and let someone drop it off and pick it up at the Embassy? And then mail it back to me when it's done? I then simply enter China with the new work visa and life is good again.

Is this a viable option?

[LarssonCrew]

This actually may work.

I'm in the process of getting my Z visa and all of the stuff is getting ridiculous now. 250 dollars to verify my degree, 700 dollars for a healthcheck that the Chinese don't even believe so force you to do qgain.

Do you have all of those things?

[Badmojo]

[mrpianoman]

You don't need to produce your degree for a z visa according to these UK and US visa agents. I can't see any request for a notarised degree

http://www.chinesevisadirect.co.uk/visa-Z.php
http://www.visarite.com/china_work_visa.htm

so how come you need to notarise yours? and isn;t the medical just a questionnaire?

[LarssonCrew]

The school need it to apply for your invitation letter.

The fee [in the UK] was 75 GBP [120 usd odd] for notarisation adn foreign office confirmation, then I paid a further 65 or something fo rthem to go and get the Chinese stamp, it would have been 30 on my own but the cost of going into London for me to the embassy itself is about 30 pounds, so it cost me about 30 dollars to use an agent more than had I done it myself.

[mrpianoman]

Can't you just produce the original degree certificate instead of getting it notarised and apostilled and stamped? Show the school the original certificate then they might not need you to get it notarised. I got mine notarised in case I get a job in Korea. Cost me £30 in birmingham. He didn't make any checks with the uni, he just looked at it and signed and stamped it. I haven;t got it apostilled yet as it's another £30. Maybe ask them if they'll accept the original to save all that cost.

[OhBudPowellWhereArtThou]

One has a copy notarized to attest that it is a true copy. That is the only function of notarization.

What is being required is authentication. Some are going the whole route of local authentication through the various levels of government; others (in the U.S.) have it authenticated only by the U.S. Department of State, then send it to the Chinese consulate for authentication, then send it back to the Chinese consulate along with all the other paperwork they must submit for a Z visa.

But notarization won't work.

I highly doubt that authentication performed by the school is acceptable because the idea behind authentication is not only to verify the authenticity of the degree but the school itself.

I don't see why one can't have the authentication performed in his home country in absentia. What difference would it make, and who would know?

Re: Visa agencies that don't require authentication. No courier/ visa agency/travel agency will require authentication of a degree because they don't issue the visa. The Chinese government issues the visa. A travel agency can procure a tourist visa, not a Z visa unless you supply the paperwork required by the Chinese government.

That's how it works.

[mrpianoman]

But like I said, my notary just looked at my original diploma and signed and stamped it. It didn't necessarily mean it was a real diploma (which mine is). another notary wanted to charge an extortionate £100 to authenticate my diploma by calling up the university registrar. That's why I went to this cheaper notary who didn't call anyone. So someone with a good quality fake could just go to this notary and get it signed as a true copy of the original. Is that what they do in the US too? Or do they call up the registrars? just an interesting point I realised in getting mine authenticated.

Travel agents do tourist and business visas but some visa agents get the Z visa or any of the other visas for you. yes you have to supply the paperwork and I don't know if this includes sending a notarised degree in or not.

[LarssonCrew]

This agent has a solicitor sign, then they sent it to the GCO [foreign Commonwealth office] who in turn check it's real. Then it is sent to the Chinese embassy for a stamp.

[Shanghai Noon]

[blox]

New z visa rules are being enforced for all new applicants as far as I know of now.
I am personally in NZ and have had to pay 100s to eventually get the Chinese authentication stamp...
Also a few friends in China have been asking me about it as they are being forced to get family members in the states to do it all for them and post to China before their visa expires.

[jaybet3]

So far, no one has mentioned the criminal background check. I am going through this process for the first time and was instructed to get a police report from my country of residence. I hold a resident visa in Indonesia, so I don't have to go back to the USA which saves me tons of money.

If someone has already worked in China, do they need this document again? If so, I believe BadMojo would need to declare his country of residence.

In regards to University Degree authentication, I was told I didn't need it for the city where I am working, but decided to spend the $300 (processing and mailing) and have it done in the USA for peace of mind so I don't have a potential problem with the Chinese Embassy in Jakarta where anything can happen. Then I don't have to worry about this process in the future if the laws change (LOL).

[nomad soul]

[OhBudPowellWhereArtThou]

[nomad soul]