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NITI (KAPLAN/IIL) in Al Hasa
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellyp wrote:
If you are excess to requirements before the end of your contract, do the company (IIL etc) have to pay the return flight? This seems ludicrus as you may not be at fault.

They should and probably do. However, keep in mind there are business visit visas involved --- there's no legal recourse if this company decides to pay for those flights out of the teachers' final paychecks. Hopefully, that won't happen here.
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nellyp



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
nellyp wrote:
If you are excess to requirements before the end of your contract, do the company (IIL etc) have to pay the return flight? This seems ludicrus as you may not be at fault.

They should and probably do. However, keep in mind there are business visit visas involved --- there's no legal recourse if this company decides to pay for those flights out of the teachers' final paychecks. Hopefully, that won't happen here.


The visa is such an important issue with rights, but also for pay and rent etc. I wouldn't mind doing the 3 month trips, but the insecurity would be a real issue.
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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But frankly, this is more of a consequence of not researching the sponsor/employer before accepting an offer --- regardless of the visa type. In fact, in late 2014, NITI IIL was reported on this forum as a red flag

But it was Kaplan that was advertising and interviewing. Only later we were told that we were teaching at NITI

and that IIL was providing visas.

The main impression was, I was going to work for Kaplan.

This is what trips you up.

Working for three companies instead of Kaplan?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waltgomez wrote:
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But frankly, this is more of a consequence of not researching the sponsor/employer before accepting an offer --- regardless of the visa type. In fact, in late 2014, NITI IIL was reported on this forum as a red flag

But it was Kaplan that was advertising and interviewing. Only later we were told that we were teaching at NITI

and that IIL was providing visas.

The main impression was, I was going to work for Kaplan.

This is what trips you up.

Working for three companies instead of Kaplan?

This is why it's important to always 1) ask who the employer is during the interview; and 2) pay attention to the name of the entity indicated on the job offer/initial contract as "employer" or "sponsor" rather than focusing only on the salary.
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Lord T



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen at least 4 recruiters as well as Kaplan, advertising this job.

A Skype interview with a recruiter, then a longer Skype interview with Kaplan, then an interview with ILL before you can go to work at NITI which is run by TVTC.

No work visa, monthly visa runs, questionable accommodation, rowdy students, frequent redundancies, and the money is on the low side for KSA.

Anyone interested?
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord T wrote:
run by TVTC.

not sure that's the verb I'd use... Rolling Eyes
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord T wrote:
the money is on the low side for KSA.

from an ad on Dave's today:

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Fantastic salary of 14,400 SAR per month

Laughing
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Lord T



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sicklyman, you may have noticed that sales and marketing is not my strongpoint. I have a habit of telling it like it is, which hasn't always been helpful to my social and financial status.

14,400 SAR is on the low side for KSA. However, if it was a nice place to work, it would suit some people. That's as positive as I can be about this particular hardship posting.
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nellyp



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord T wrote:
sicklyman, you may have noticed that sales and marketing is not my strongpoint. I have a habit of telling it like it is, which hasn't always been helpful to my social and financial status.

14,400 SAR is on the low side for KSA. However, if it was a nice place to work, it would suit some people. That's as positive as I can be about this particular hardship posting.


Excellent news. I have been looking at job opportunities in the Kingdom for a while now, and I see very few jobs (of this type) on the internet that pay more. Is there any way you point me in the direction of postings or adverts on the net that pay higher than this?

Cheers
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nellyp



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