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Undocumented immigrant set to become certified teacher at 19
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RedLightning



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Undocumented immigrant set to become certified teacher at 19 Reply with quote
http://educationblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/17-year-old-girl-on-track-to-be-dallas-isds-youngest-teacher-she-had-one-big-hurdle-and-its-not-her-age.html/
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The US has a teacher shortage, at least for sciences and elementary school. I don't know if that is what her field is going to be. Given the fact that she is needed I don't see anything wrong with that even given that she is an undocumented foreigner. Let's hope we don't end up with an ultra-liberal teacher, although regardless the way it works in the US, she has the right to belong to any political group she wants.
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Wolfsong



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The article seems deliberately confusing. On the one hand she is classed as an undocumented migrant but on the other she is allowed to graduate from high school and admits to being lots of help to get her associate degree. Plus she will get extra help for her teacher training. With all of this, she's hardly a migrant at all. Rolling Eyes I wonder if such help was given to American students fro equally poor backgrounds they wouldn't do equally well?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is in New Mexico. Smile

Regards,
John
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wolfsong wrote:
The article seems deliberately confusing. On the one hand she is classed as an undocumented migrant but on the other she is allowed to graduate from high school and admits to being lots of help to get her associate degree. Plus she will get extra help for her teacher training. With all of this, she's hardly a migrant at all. Rolling Eyes I wonder if such help was given to American students fro equally poor backgrounds they wouldn't do equally well?

Don't get confused between immigration status and economics. For starters, the federal 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program provides people "brought to the US unlawfully as children with temporary work permits as long as they meet certain requirements." It doesn't guarantee citizenship but is intended to allow undocumented immigrants, like the young woman in the article, to legally work in the US without fear of deportation. In other words, it gives her and others with similar status the ability to contribute fully and equally to US society regardless of which occupation they pursue. Moreover, DACA is not a financial aid program; that assistance is coming through the TechTeach program, which doesn't consider immigration status in terms of educating prospective k-12 teachers to address the country's teacher-shortage issue.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The federal government is refusing to control immigration. An immigrant, if they came as a child can illegally compete in the state because the DHS (Dept of Homeland Security) said so. The DACA is not a law, it is a policy of the federal government. If a local area decides to deny it they will lose all funding for their schools.

I would call it blackmail personally.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
wangdaning wrote:
The DACA is not a law, it is a policy of the federal government. If a local area decides to deny it they will lose all funding for their schools.

What's your source for this info? This is an issue of public higher ed institutions charging resident undocumented students pricey out-of-state tuition as opposed to in-state rates.

The 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) maintains that undocumented immigrants cannot receive in-state tuition based on state residence unless US citizens from any state could also receive the benefit (https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/edcentral/college-tuition-dreamer/). In response, some state governments saw a loophole in IIRIRA; they advocate that in-state tuition be offered to DREAMers who attended and graduated from high school in the same state. However, tuition equity isn't supported in a handful of other states that now have laws to disqualify these students for the lower rates. Regardless, this is at the state level rather than with the feds.
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it is a policy implemented by the Obama Administration

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What DACA Is Not
This is not a new law. It is only an executive action being taken by the President. As such, it can be terminated by the President and is likely to be terminated by Mitt Romney, if he becomes President in January 2013, as evidenced by his opposition to the DREAM Act, his statement that "the president's action makes reaching a long-term solution more difficult," and that it is "a short-term matter and can be reversed by subsequent presidents," and his selection of his running mate.

In fact, President Obama himself has stated that "This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It's not a permanent fix."

Deferred Action does not provide a path to the green card or to citizenship.

Deferred Action only means that while it is in force, the government will not seek to deport the people who qualify for it.

Deferred Action does not excuse unlawful presence accrued before it is granted, nor unlawful presence accrued after it expires.



https://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/deferred-action-for-childhood-arrivals-obamas-dreamer-action
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We've already established what DACA is. I'm questioning the basis for wangdaning's following statement: "If a local area decides to deny it they will lose all funding for their schools." Confused
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wangdaning



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