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Most Cost Effective Way to Get Money Out of China to Canada

 
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MrChongqing



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:37 pm    Post subject: Most Cost Effective Way to Get Money Out of China to Canada Reply with quote

I would like to know what the cheapest way to transfer money from China to Canada is. I've heard conflicting information.

Canadian expats at the local foreigner watering hole seem to think that withdrawing the money from an ATM in Canada is the least expensive. I've had other expats tell me that you can make a few withdrawals overseas and then suddenly your bank card stops working.

I spoke with a Bank of China representative and she said that I could withdraw a maximum of the equivalent of $500 USD per day from an overseas ATM but she seemed a bit vague as to what the maximum per year is.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start here:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=112742&highlight=withdraw+money+overseas
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MrChongqing



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Although I was employed here legally on a Z visa, the likelihood of me getting tax receipts from my former employer is very low.

What are people's thoughts on the ATM route?
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Mr. Leafy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrChongqing wrote:
What are people's thoughts on the ATM route?


It depends on how flexible you are with time, and how fussy you are to get a good deal.

I had planned to do this on my last trip to Canada. Then, just around the time I got there, the rate changed sharply against me. I would have taken too big a hit. I left some rmb cash that I'd carried with me with family to be changed at a later date, but didn't want to withdraw any more.

Bank to bank usually works best for me. There is a cost, but my local branch knows me and other foreigners in the area now and it goes smoothly (previous city was a nightmare).

I watch the rates and choose when to exchange. (Exchange the daily limit regularly, keep in a $ account here, and send to Canada when it builds up) On a short trip home you can't control your timing.


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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrChongqing wrote:
Thanks. Although I was employed here legally on a Z visa, the likelihood of me getting tax receipts from my former employer is very low.

What are people's thoughts on the ATM route?


You don't get them from the school. You get them from the tax department. Find out where that is, and ask for a "shui dan."
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MrChongqing



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really useful information about the tax receipts. Thank you.

My fear about the ATM route is that they will cut me off after I withdraw a certain amount.

Is there any validity to this fear?
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Elicit



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yearly limit for ATM overseas withdrawals was reduced in October last year. I thinks it's now around 10k US. Then, my card stopped working.

It' s the easiest way to get money back home, but make sure your card has a magnetic strip on the back as well as the new chip and pin technology, because a regular ICBC card without the strip doesn"t work.

I will go the tax receipt and transfer route now, but you could open a couple of accounts with BOC and perhaps the limit applies to account and not holder.
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MrChongqing



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My card has the magnetic strip, the chip, and begins with the number 62, which is necessary for overseas withdrawals. 10K per year is plenty.
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Curtinca



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to change RMB for US $$$ at a friendly little shop around the corner from a bar favoured by expats in the city where I taught. The shopkeeper gave me the same exchange rate as at the bank, and all genuine bills. If I was on my way home, I'd take the cash with me. Alternatively I was able to send it (in not suspiciously large amounts) by Western Union.

But (you say), what about the exchange converting US $$$ to loonies? I didn't do that. Always maintained a US dollar account in a Canadian bank and it turned out to be the smart thing to do.
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weigookin74



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you just go to your local bank, Bank of China, and wire the money home to Canada? Why all the cloak and dagger stuff? If you're on a legal Z visa, shouldn't you be able to send it, albeit in smaller amounts as I had heard you could only change 500 US dollars a day? I think your bank back home is capable of accepting US dollars and converting it to Cdn before putting it into your account.
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Curtinca



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Weigookin - If that remark is directed at me... I was quite legal on a proper Z visa. Just not up for the hassle of conducting any out-of-the-ordinary transaction at a Chinese bank. I believe lots of other legal FTs will agree with me on the inefficiency of Chinese bank staff. Whatever you want to do, it can't be done!

Certainly Canadian banks can convert US$ to C$, charging you a "small fee" for so doing, but why would want to do that when you never know what the Canadian dollar is going to be worth in "real money".
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