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Non Sequitur
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| tyroleanhat wrote: |
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Get a bog standard ESL Cert. Pump up any tutoring or other instruction he has done. Then apply to FL universities as German teacher with English as second string.
There's one in Dalian, or at least in Lushun which is an hour's drive south, near the end of the Liaoning Pen.
Here's the link to Dalian:
http://www.dlufl.edu.cn/en/ |
That's great info - thanks for the link.
Say he does that for 1 or 2 years. Will this give him a shot at an international school afterwards - or do those Int. schools want to see more than an ESL Cert? |
My only experience (via a friend) is of Clifford International in Guangzhou.
Clifford required a current registration as a teacher from any of the accepted native speaker countries - Aust, NZ, UK, Canada and US.
SA not really accepted as being native English speaking.
Because Clifford has expat students it is a true international and maybe they teach German or have German students.
So in summary I would say get a Foreign Language U gig for 2 years and then call Clifford and have a chat.
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lugubregondola
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| tyroleanhat wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Get a bog standard ESL Cert. Pump up any tutoring or other instruction he has done. Then apply to FL universities as German teacher with English as second string.
There's one in Dalian, or at least in Lushun which is an hour's drive south, near the end of the Liaoning Pen.
Here's the link to Dalian:
http://www.dlufl.edu.cn/en/ |
That's great info - thanks for the link.
Say he does that for 1 or 2 years. Will this give him a shot at an international school afterwards - or do those Int. schools want to see more than an ESL Cert? |
per my post above, if he wants to work in international schools, he will have to do a PGCE in the UK and then do his nqt year to obtain QTS. Then he will have to get 1 or 2 years UK teaching experience before any proper international school would be interested. No you can't get a proper international school job with just a 4 week CELTA. There are many many well qualified UK teachers applying for these jobs each year so schools can pick and choose who they want. International schools don't go on MAs I'm afraid, they go on having UK QTS which requires a first degree + PGCE. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| I was thinking more of a 'language assistant' role, rather than as a full blown subject teacher. |
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tyroleanhat
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| There are many many well qualified UK teachers applying for these jobs each year so schools can pick and choose who they want. International schools don't go on MAs I'm afraid, they go on having UK QTS which requires a first degree + PGCE. |
You're describing a scenario in which he is an English native speaker who wants to teach English at an international school, correct? But neither is he a native speaker nor has he a chance as an English teacher at one of those Int. schools.
German is probably his only shot at an international school. |
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lugubregondola
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| Exactly. If he wants to teach german at an international school, he will still need a PGCE in MFL plus uk mfl teaching experience teaching German. There are also quite a lot of foreign teachers or non native english speaking teachers with PGCEs teaching subjects in the uk. A lot are spanish teachers i think. The OPs best shot is probably to qualify as a teacher for german schools. He might get into an international school that way then. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| tyroleanhat wrote: |
But neither is he a native speaker nor has he a chance as an English teacher at one of those Int. schools.
German is probably his only shot at an international school. |
He can start with a Google search using: german teacher jobs china
Additionally, there's the Goethe-Institut as well as the following German-medium schools that he can look into:
Deutsche Botschaftsschule Peking
Deutsche Internationale Schule Changchun
German School Shanghai
German Swiss International School |
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lugubregondola
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He'll never get into any of those german schools without having qualified as a German teacher in Germany first. There's already an abundance of them looking for work in Germany with experience of the German curriculum. Just like english teachers at british international schools. Theyre two a penny
. If he could learn a subject which is in demand he'd have more chance. Physics is a shortage subject for example |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| lugubregondola wrote: |
He'll never get into any of those german schools without having qualified as a German teacher in Germany first. There's already an abundance of them looking for work in Germany with experience of the German curriculum. Just like english teachers at british international schools. Theyre two a penny
. If he could learn a subject which is in demand he'd have more chance. Physics is a shortage subject for example |
My point was to give him a reality check. Parents are paying for their children's education and have the right to expect qualified, experienced educators and not teacher-wannabes who feel they can skate by with as minimal qualifications and effort as possible. |
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tyroleanhat
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| If he can teach piano, I know of an upcoming vacancy... |
sent you a PM |
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