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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:09 am Post subject: Studying for the N2 |
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I was wondering if anyone here has passed the N2 in the past 3-5 years? I just passed the N3 this summer, and I am taking the N2 this winter. I have been studying a decent amount, and I have some hope in passing.
Thing though, is that getting to N2 level means that you can pretty much read. My Kanji still isn't there yet, as there are still tons of Kanji that I can't even read, nor guess read.
I currently use notebooks to study at work, Anki on my phone, and when i get a chance, Mormorinihongo on youtube to get instructions, and for listening practice.
Anyone have any tips, comments, or are also looking to take a JLPT test this winter? |
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taikibansei
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 811 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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It's been more than a few years since I passed the N2--actually, nearly 20 years. (Man, I've gotten old....) That said, a lot of what I did then to pass the N2 (and N1) is still pertinent, including the following for studying kanji:
First, if you don't already have them, get yourself copies of these two books:
Henshall, K. G. (1988). A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters. Tokyo: Tuttle.
Nelson, A. N. (1994). The Modern Reader's Japanese-English Character Dictionary (Second Revised Edition). Tokyo: Tuttle
The Henshall book has a lot of nice tricks for remembering characters, while the Nelson dictionary is just...awesome. (It has many daily use characters that all other Japanese-English dictionaries do not list.)
Second, you need to do what the Japanese do to learn these characters...which is to practice writing them every. single. day. That said, for the N2, they'll be testing you on character readings (as well as meanings). What I did was type something--at least one email, letter, report, diary entry, etc.--in Japanese every day. (It helped that responsibilities at my workplace often necessitated written correspondence in Japanese.)
Typing stuff forces you to get the readings right. E.g., there's a big difference in meaning between "jokin" (除菌) and "jo-kin" (常勤), something many foreigners (including myself) have a hard time catching just from listening to the spoken word (let alone remembering for a standardized test). However, on a Japanese word-processing program, unless you type the readings correctly, the characters you want will not appear...forcing you to learn them.
My two yen, anyway. Good luck! |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the late response.
I don't think that the N2 is all that much different, even after the recent changes. N3 got a bit harder is all IIRC.
I do need to try and squeeze in writing, typing into my study regiment.
RTK is an amazing system though. I don't think I could write many kanji without hat system. I forget so easily it seems.
The N3 had a lot of kanji on the test that were similar, or had similar readings. I am sure the N2 will have way more. So I am going to see if I can find your books here in Japan.
Thanks for the tips |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:28 am Post subject: |
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I think a pass in each section is about 50% but if you fail one part you fail everything.
It used to be your overall score put together but now each section must be passed.
Maybe kanji and reading is the hardest part while with N3 it is grammar and vocabulary.
You could look for Japanese boot camp on the web, which gives tips for each test. |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mitsui wrote: |
I think a pass in each section is about 50% but if you fail one part you fail everything.
It used to be your overall score put together but now each section must be passed.
Maybe kanji and reading is the hardest part while with N3 it is grammar and vocabulary.
You could look for Japanese boot camp on the web, which gives tips for each test. |
I just passed the N2, and as you said, you have to hit a minimum score per section. I guess when they redid the test 5 or so years ago, this was changed.
Oh yeah I take practice tests online, the kanji is pretty hard. N3 wasn't that hard, the grammar had a bit here and there that was tricky, but it wasn't too bad. N2 looks like a monster in comparison.
Thanks for the Japanese bootcamp idea. Any little bit helps |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:14 am Post subject: |
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www.jlptbootcamp.com
I think he is in Japan and assume he passed N2. |
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Inflames
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 486
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Study every day. Kanzen Master books were the best books when I took it (2009-2011).
If you are married, honestly lie to your wife and go to a convenience store with an "eat in" section and buy a coffee and study there for an hour each day - it is your time, and passing it will pay off in the end. I can never study at home (even stuff I need for my work) so Starbucks/cafes/conbinis are essential for studying.
Don't feel discouraged about not being able to read everything - I work at a Japanese company doing translation and there were things in the beginning I couldn't read (I see them every day now so I learned).
Good luck! |
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rxk22
Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| Inflames wrote: |
Study every day. Kanzen Master books were the best books when I took it (2009-2011).
If you are married, honestly lie to your wife and go to a convenience store with an "eat in" section and buy a coffee and study there for an hour each day - it is your time, and passing it will pay off in the end. I can never study at home (even stuff I need for my work) so Starbucks/cafes/conbinis are essential for studying.
Don't feel discouraged about not being able to read everything - I work at a Japanese company doing translation and there were things in the beginning I couldn't read (I see them every day now so I learned).
Good luck! |
Haha, nice. I usually stay after work and study. On weekends I go to the gym and stay after to study. I have little kids, so my study time is very limited. I can't normally finish reading a sentence with them around. So yeah, def out of the house is where I can actually study.
Also, thanks for the encouragement. I am just amazed at how many kanji there are, and how many combos there are. I learn one, and I find multiple readings of it, and mult combos of it, just seems never ending. |
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