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BlueEyedEarthAngel



Joined: 22 Apr 2016
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:22 pm    Post subject: Location, Location, Location Reply with quote

I have the following questions;
1) What are the highest paying salaries in China?
2) What is the cheapest place to live in terms of living costs?
3) Which is the best city to work and live in?
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Tazz



Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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Location: Jakarta

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like our old mate 'Mr Piano fingers' is at it again.....Istanbul, China, UAE, Indonesia, ...all from the confines of the cell that shall never be left.... Confused
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Location, Location, Location Reply with quote

BlueEyedEarthAngel wrote:
I have the following questions;
1) What are the highest paying salaries in China?
2) What is the cheapest place to live in terms of living costs?
3) Which is the best city to work and live in?


I'm working on it Boss.
I should have a first draft ready for you end October.
Rolling Eyes
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Jmbf



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Highest paying salaries*
Mainland China: Around 40K RMB / month**
Hong Kong: Around 100K RMB / month** (equivalent)

2. Cheapest place to live
Probably some out-of-town university / school campus. Live on site, eat on site. Not much to do hence not much to spend your money on.

3. Best city to work and live in
Very subjective. Best to target a few cities that you are interested in and do your research on them.

* Note that salaries form only part of an overall package. Accommodation, bonuses, various allowances, flights, health packages etc etc can make a big difference.

** Also note that these figures represent the top 1% of teacher incomes in China / Hong Kong. Accordingly, most teachers will be on much less. Knowing the top potential salaries is an interesting thought exercise, but also practically quite useless for the majority of us. A better question would be, "What is a good salary / package for someone with X qualifications and X experience in X region?"
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getbehindthemule



Joined: 15 Oct 2015
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmbf wrote:


* Note that salaries form only part of an overall package. Accommodation, bonuses, various allowances, flights, health packages etc etc can make a big difference.

** Also note that these figures represent the top 1% of teacher incomes in China / Hong Kong. Accordingly, most teachers will be on much less. Knowing the top potential salaries is an interesting thought exercise, but also practically quite useless for the majority of us. A better question would be, "What is a good salary / package for someone with X qualifications and X experience in X region?"



Good points Jmbf!

I will bite as I would be interested in some opinions on this...
So what do people think is a good salary/package in the following case:

- Subject related degree + telf certification.
- Three years teaching experience in China (elementary level).
- Shanghai
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BlueEyedEarthAngel



Joined: 22 Apr 2016
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:49 am    Post subject: Question about offer Reply with quote

Is this a good offer than
University application Counselor in international school in Shenzhenl,up to 20k,free accommodation,full paid holiday,Z visa

Responsibilities:
To guide the students to apply university and prepare the documents.
Location:
Futian District, Shenzhen
Work Hours:
40 hours per week from Monday to Friday
Benefits:
RMB up to RMB20k+free meal+shared apartment or house allowace
Report Date:ASAP or Aug.
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit hard to comment as it's not a teaching job.
Seems you get on with your day and don't have to renew your enthusiasm every 90 mins, or lesson plan.
40 hours for 20K (less tax).
Shared housing can be a pain.
Is there an airfare component and do you get same (paid) holidays as students? Espec Spring Break.
Valuable experience though if you want to return home and work in a school as an international student liaison person.
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Report Date:ASAP or Aug


Is this a current offer? Seems not.
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nomad soul



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Location: The real world

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Question about offer Reply with quote

BlueEyedEarthAngel wrote:
Is this a good offer than
University application Counselor in international school in Shenzhenl,up to 20k,free accommodation,full paid holiday,Z visa

Responsibilities: To guide the students to apply university and prepare the documents.

On another forum, you stated you have a PhD in School Psychology. This position is for a university admissions counselor, which is not the same as a school psychologist. It's doubtful it requires anything more than a BA.
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Tazz



Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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Location: Jakarta

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please stop feeding the troll boys and girls....he/she's going nowhere anyway. Laughing
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BlueEyedEarthAngel



Joined: 22 Apr 2016
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:30 pm    Post subject: Nomad Reply with quote

Yes, I do have a PhD but I am trying to gain experience which could possibly get me a step up to move onto another position. Most jobs I am finding at international schools want staff to have experience abroad. And if China allows for that than that is what I will do.

Tazz, you know nothing about or my life. If you dont have something useful than the suggestion is to stay out of it.
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doogsville



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
Posts: 924
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Nomad Reply with quote

BlueEyedEarthAngel wrote:
Yes, I do have a PhD but I am trying to gain experience which could possibly get me a step up to move onto another position. Most jobs I am finding at international schools want staff to have experience abroad. And if China allows for that than that is what I will do.

Tazz, you know nothing about or my life. If you dont have something useful than the suggestion is to stay out of it.


Is English your first language? The above would suggest not. That would make it much more difficult for you to get a job in China.
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nomad soul



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Location: The real world

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlueEyedEarthAngel wrote:
Yes, I do have a PhD but I am trying to gain experience which could possibly get me a step up to move onto another position. Most jobs I am finding at international schools want staff to have experience abroad. And if China allows for that than that is what I will do.

Is your doctorate from an Anglophone country? If so, it's odd that you're having trouble securing work in your field.

Regardless, you have no experience as an admissions counselor nor as a guidance counselor. Instead of focusing on EFL (which you also lack experience in), you should be looking for school psychologist positions via sites like Teach Away, Seek Teachers, Footprints, and Search Associates. There's also the forum on International Schools Review for networking and info.
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