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rioux



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:13 pm    Post subject: Since China has the #2 economy... Reply with quote

Why hasn't salaries for foreign teachers increased to a comparable level to that of Japan or South Korea?
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talentedcrayon



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the same reason that average salaries of Chinese workers are not in the same ballpark as those in Korea or Japan.

hint: GDP per capita
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creeper1



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But they have.

It's not uncommon to get 18000 or so in Tier one cities.

That equates to about 2.8 million won.

Of course there is no housing allowance with that.

It's basically the same or a little lower than in Korea.

Still not enough to lure people here though Ifeel.
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rioux



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
But they have.


When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now.
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creeper1



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rioux wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
But they have.


When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now.


You gave up a uni job in Korea? Ouch!

Sorry nothing I can say will take the pain away from your (seemingly bad) decision.

Why did you move here then? Seems foolish!
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salaries in Japan have been stagnant for 15 years, not much better in Korea. Salaries in most ESL jobs in China have doubled in that time. It is just dumb to go from the Korean university system to the Chinese university system (which has by far the lowest salaries of all) and conclude that Chinese salaries have not increased. The OP is clearly a newbie in China. But then again, I never taught in Japan or Korea but know what the salaries there have been like for 15 years. Why does the OP not know anything about the Chinese market after teaching right next door? And why would you accept a position here without that knowledge? Rolling Eyes

BTW, I turned down a professor's job in Korea just when I was offered my current position as professor in a China with an international university. I earn much more here.
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rioux



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife is from the Philippines and although she has a M.A. as well as TESOL it would be extremely difficult for her to teach in Korea. There wasn't any problem with her teaching in China.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rioux wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
But they have.


When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now.


Possibly low qualification/alma mater and poor area are to blame. Possibly poor choice or bad luck.


U.S. degrees are preferred over UK degrees. (Really. Three years for a UK BA degree vs four years for a U.S. BA. Two years (minimum) US Masters vs one year UK Masters -- 56 hours for a US MFA). My own FAO noted that my university wasn't the top of my state's system. They really do take that into consideration.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More tuition days in British and British system unis.
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JB140767



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Since China has the #2 economy... Reply with quote

rioux wrote:
Why hasn't salaries for foreign teachers increased to a comparable level to that of Japan or South Korea?


All evidence I have seen is to the contrary, maybe you just got unlucky
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