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rioux
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:13 pm Post subject: Since China has the #2 economy... |
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Why hasn't salaries for foreign teachers increased to a comparable level to that of Japan or South Korea? |
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talentedcrayon
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:13 am Post subject: |
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For the same reason that average salaries of Chinese workers are not in the same ballpark as those in Korea or Japan.
hint: GDP per capita |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 481 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 am Post subject: |
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But they have.
It's not uncommon to get 18000 or so in Tier one cities.
That equates to about 2.8 million won.
Of course there is no housing allowance with that.
It's basically the same or a little lower than in Korea.
Still not enough to lure people here though Ifeel. |
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rioux
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:19 am Post subject: |
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creeper1 wrote: |
But they have. |
When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now. |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 481 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:23 am Post subject: |
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rioux wrote: |
creeper1 wrote: |
But they have. |
When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now. |
You gave up a uni job in Korea? Ouch!
Sorry nothing I can say will take the pain away from your (seemingly bad) decision.
Why did you move here then? Seems foolish! |
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RiverMystic
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Salaries in Japan have been stagnant for 15 years, not much better in Korea. Salaries in most ESL jobs in China have doubled in that time. It is just dumb to go from the Korean university system to the Chinese university system (which has by far the lowest salaries of all) and conclude that Chinese salaries have not increased. The OP is clearly a newbie in China. But then again, I never taught in Japan or Korea but know what the salaries there have been like for 15 years. Why does the OP not know anything about the Chinese market after teaching right next door? And why would you accept a position here without that knowledge?
BTW, I turned down a professor's job in Korea just when I was offered my current position as professor in a China with an international university. I earn much more here. |
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rioux
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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My wife is from the Philippines and although she has a M.A. as well as TESOL it would be extremely difficult for her to teach in Korea. There wasn't any problem with her teaching in China. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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rioux wrote: |
creeper1 wrote: |
But they have. |
When I worked at a university in Korea in early 2000 I earned 2.4 million won a month.
I earn less than half that at a university in China now. |
Possibly low qualification/alma mater and poor area are to blame. Possibly poor choice or bad luck.
U.S. degrees are preferred over UK degrees. (Really. Three years for a UK BA degree vs four years for a U.S. BA. Two years (minimum) US Masters vs one year UK Masters -- 56 hours for a US MFA). My own FAO noted that my university wasn't the top of my state's system. They really do take that into consideration. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:53 am Post subject: |
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More tuition days in British and British system unis. |
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JB140767
Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Since China has the #2 economy... |
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rioux wrote: |
Why hasn't salaries for foreign teachers increased to a comparable level to that of Japan or South Korea? |
All evidence I have seen is to the contrary, maybe you just got unlucky |
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