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The correct name of my country.
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senor boogie woogie



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: The correct name of my country. Reply with quote

Hola!

The correct name of my country is The United States of America. The United States or plain America is fine.

Why do people say "The States". As in, "Where are you from?" "The states". I absolutely cringe when I hear this. Which state? Should we call Canada "The Provinces"? It always seems that very annoying people say this.

Say United States and/or America, OK? Saying "the states" only shows stupidity.

Senor
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denise



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch!!! I guess I must be stupid, then. To non-native speakers, I often say "America," but to natives, I often use "the States."

Why do I say "The States"? Because it's shorter/easier than "The United States (of America)." And some people object to "America" because it sounds like we think we control both continents.

I've never had anyone misunderstand me or get offended before when I've told them that I'm from the States.

Yours in eternal stupidity,
d
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skeptic



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong.

It's only properly termed, "The GOOD OLE US of A!" Anything less is a misnomer. Razz
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: The correct name of my country. Reply with quote

senor boogie woogie wrote:
do people say "The States". As in, "Where are you from?" "The states". I absolutely cringe when I hear this. Which state? Should we call Canada "The Provinces"? It always seems that very annoying people say this.


People say that because "The States" is (yes, I'm using singular) so big and so powerful that everyone knows what country we are talking about.
Why cringe?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

senor,

I cringe when I hear "America". That name should be reserved to North America, Central America, or South America, don't you think?

I still use it when speaking to Japanese people. It's a cultural thing. They get confused whenever I say United States or The States. Go with the flow.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a Canadian from Ontario where pretty much everybody calls your country "the States" or "the US", I find your posting to be more than a little insulting. I don't post that I have a problem with the way people from the States have a tendancy to say something like "Kyaen-uh-duh" instead of "Canada" even though it's actually a pretty common thing to laugh at while you're sitting around on the patio drinking beers.

ETA

The reason you can't call Canada "the Provinces" is that 1. There are actually provinces AND territories, so it wouldn't be accurate and 2. My country has a proper name, as opposed to a description. If we were called "The Unified Provinces and Territories of Northern North America", or UPTNNA probably it would get shortened. Maybe it would be shortened to "North America". Then people could say "In Ottawa, the capital city of North America, people eat poutine". That wouldn't be confusing at all.
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zaneth



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are better things to cringe at. I will continue to use "the states" whenever I feel like it. It seems clear, unambiguous, and accurate enough to me.
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desultude



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The States it is for me too. That's where I'm from. I'm also from American, but so are Canadians and Mexicans.

I usually say "Miami", actually, and most people understand what I mean, and many have some idea about me from that.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not often in the same boat as SBW, but I do go along with him on this one.

"The States"??? Sounds very supercilious to me. WHich "States"? Isn't "US" already short for "USA"? Aren't t"States"? The "MExican States", for example?
Ditto when Germans refer to "the Federal Republic"; whose "federal Republic"? Oh, context gives it away... Yes, and the context of "The States" sounds a bit domineering to me.
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Communist Smurf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
The reason you can't call Canada "the Provinces" is that 1. There are actually provinces AND territories, so it wouldn't be accurate and 2. My country has a proper name, as opposed to a description. If we were called "The Unified Provinces and Territories of Northern North America", or UPTNNA probably it would get shortened. Maybe it would be shortened to "North America". Then people could say "In Ottawa, the capital city of North America, people eat poutine". That wouldn't be confusing at all.


If you'd like to nit-pick, there are 47 states and 3 commonwealths. Commonwealths are MA, PA, and VA.

CS
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd always thought Americans were from the US. I've never heard anyone call us "Statesians" or "United Statesians".
It really is a God-foresaken dump, thginkradeht. So, with what you know, you don't ever have to go there. You will be sorely missed.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then, easy as pie, avoid the people. Don't go there. No one cares.
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of related things that come to mind and somewhat amuse me especially when it comes from supposedly well-educated adults:

The numerous number of Britons who think New Mexico is in Mexico.
The number of Britons who think the English flag has blue on it
When foreign leaders (including those current and former from across the Atlantic) refer to Elizabeth as the Queen of England (only ??).
By the way, I didnt know that New York was 'the capital of the world' - as Guiliani (sic) was fond of saying.

Amusing !

regards
basil

As all pigs are animals so all English are Brits. As all animals are not pigs so all Brits are not English.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basil,

There are also a number of folks from the United States who think New Mexico is in Mexico. For that reason New Mexico Magazine has had a feature for many years called "One of Our 50 Is Missing", in which some of the more foolish misplacements of the state are recounted each month.
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SueH



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
The States it is for me too. That's where I'm from. I'm also from American, but so are Canadians and Mexicans.

I usually say "Miami", actually, and most people understand what I mean, and many have some idea about me from that.


Er... is that Miami Ok, Miami Az or Miami Fla?

Sue
(Hants)
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