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Next move after PhD??? Query about PGCEi??? I need $$$$$$$
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Kowloon



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest that seems like the most obvious option to me - particularly you've now revealed you're Scottish.

Stay where you are, maybe get the PGCEi as it won't hurt, and keep working away until your eldest is three years from completing Secondary School. Start applying for every job going in Scotland that will give you what you need financially. Move back to Scotland, your kids finish school there, have been resident for three years so are eligble for free tuition. You move back to Asia to a better paying job after the youngest gets a place.

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spanglish



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kowloon wrote:
To be honest that seems like the most obvious option to me - particularly you've now revealed you're Scottish.

Stay where you are, maybe get the PGCEi as it won't hurt, and keep working away until your eldest is three years from completing Secondary School. Start applying for every job going in Scotland that will give you what you need financially. Move back to Scotland, your kids finish school there, have been resident for three years so are eligble for free tuition. You move back to Asia to a better paying job after the youngest gets a place.

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I like this option, especially the part about securing a job before moving back home.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobs in Scotland are not so easy to find. Within secoindary schools here there is a suspicion of those with non-standard career paths, especially if there is an element of teaching abroad. "(S)he worked abroad for some years," is seen as a negative.

Those teaching in Scotland require a criminal offences background check ("Disclosure"). Can you provide that for periods spent living outside the UK ?
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Jobs in Scotland are not so easy to find. Within secoindary schools here there is a suspicion of those with non-standard career paths, especially if there is an element of teaching abroad. "(S)he worked abroad for some years," is seen as a negative.


This is precisely what I was referring to in my above post (try to secure a position before moving back). The same goes for jobs in the United States - not easy to find and having worked abroad tends to be seen negatively.
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meyanga



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies and advice.

Moving to Scotland three years before my daughter goes to university has always been in the plan and there's another 5 years until we would need to do that (unless I meet a millionaire before that Laughing Twisted Evil )

I would never want to work in state secondary schools so that's not really a concern. I've never had a problem finding work in ESL in Scotland, there's plenty of language schools and university language centres where people come and go a lot. I also have a lot of contacts there so that's not really an issue. ESL in independent schools is another possible option and I've done that before too.

I really can't stay where I am for too much longer as I live in quite a small Malaysian town with very few expats and very little social life. The job is fine, the people are lovely and I am getting excellent experience managing a team which I have never done before, but once I have the PhD and the contract ends I think I need to go for the sake of my sanity.

Another option I have been thinking about is Senior Teacher positions at the British Council as long as the salary can support school fees (they are not included). I've worked for BC before and I am not their biggest fan but it is something to consider....
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you could probably get a decent to higher ranked international school in a tier 2 city in China.

Forget Shanghai Shenzhen GZ or Beijing and focus on other provincial capitals that have only expat students or at least a large %. They probably won't be too fussy as long as you're white and with your experience they'd surely be interested.

Also they do not care about divorced or whatever and my friends working in the sector only pay 5% of the tuition fee.

Infact, getting a 'white' faced kid in may even come free or you can negotiate it.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
I think you could probably get a decent to higher ranked international school in a tier 2 city in China.

Forget Shanghai Shenzhen GZ or Beijing and focus on other provincial capitals that have only expat students or at least a large %. They probably won't be too fussy as long as you're white and with your experience they'd surely be interested.
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Infact, getting a 'white' faced kid in may even come free or you can negotiate it.

How so? If the OP is expecting her children to succeed in a university in the UK or any other Anglophone country, then they would be attending k-12 alongside other Brits/native English speaking children in accredited private schools abroad that follow UK or IB curriculum. The children attending those schools are likely to come from a diverse demographic.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any job in Scotland involving contact with young people requires "Disclosure". This is not restricted to state secondary schools. Tricky if you have been abroad for periods.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A disclosure/good conduct certificate shouldn't be an issue if she's been in Malaysia a few years.

http://www.kln.gov.my/web/ind_mumbai/other_information/-/asset_publisher/2TQe/content/certificate-of-good-conduct-1

That's assuming she behaved. πŸ‡²πŸ‡ΎπŸ˜‡
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobs are not easy to find. Getting that "Disclosure" is just the first step !
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meyanga



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod, I think I've behaved reasonably well Laughing

LarssonCrew - China has never appealed and I can't imagine the standards would be much higher than where we are now. Plus, my kids are not white - my ex-husband is black! Maybe they'd charge me extra!

As for working in Scotland, Disclosure or not, it really doesn't appeal. I get quite depressed in the UK. I will manage for the 3 year university thing, but to go back now would be tough and I don't think it is necessary.

I have written to a few recruitment companies for advice. One possible option seems to be English as Additional Support at international schools......
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meyanga



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://humanities.academickeys.com/job/19p0ykjl/Lecturer_in_Linguistics_Applied_Linguistics

Problem solved. Selling the kids. You will find me on a beach in Fiji Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
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