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Jeff19
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:02 am Post subject: English for Academic Purposes, best countries/schools |
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Hi everyone, I am currently teaching EAP in Vietnam.
I work for an Australian university which provides well designed courses to people who want to study and live abroad or simply attend an English-speaking university.
The students are great, serious and willing to work hard, the pay is good, I have enough free time and in general the job is really interesting.
It seems I've found my ideal area of specialization but I don't want to stay in Vietnam forever.
So, for the future, what countries/institutions offer the best opportunities in terms of EAP? Note that teaching IELTS would also be an option. My preferences:
Asia - Hong Kong, China, Singapore, Japan, Oman.
English-speaking countries - USA, Australia(I'm not a native speaker).
Russian-speaking countries.
Europe - Austria, Italy(I hold a EU passport, Europe seems the most obvious choice when it comes to settle down).
Any advice from someone who went down this road?
Thank you! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:34 am Post subject: Re: English for Academic Purposes, best countries/schools |
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| You didn't mention your nationality nor degree (level and major), but mark Oman and the US off your list. Assuming you don't have a relevant MA or PhD, you'd be competing with Omanis and Americans --- MA TESOL holders who'd get first dibs on job openings in their respective countries. Australia is likely to be a challenge for the same reason. |
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Jeff19
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:40 am Post subject: Re: English for Academic Purposes, best countries/schools |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| You didn't mention your nationality nor degree (level and major), but mark Oman and the US off your list. Assuming you don't have a relevant MA or PhD, you'd be competing with Omanis and Americans --- MA TESOL holders who'd get first dibs on job openings in their respective countries. Australia is likely to be a challenge for the same reason. |
Sorry, my bad. I'm Italian, I have a degree from the University of Glasgow and I hold a CELTA.
What about other countries? I would love to hear about HK in particular. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:21 am Post subject: Re: English for Academic Purposes, best countries/schools |
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| Jeff19 wrote: |
[I have a degree from the University of Glasgow and I hold a CELTA.
What about other countries? I would love to hear about HK in particular. |
A BA/MA in __? It likely makes a difference as to where you can work.
As for Hong Kong, head over to the HK forum to post your questions. Be specific about your qualifications, credentials, experience, nationality, etc. |
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Jeff19
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: Re: English for Academic Purposes, best countries/schools |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| Jeff19 wrote: |
[I have a degree from the University of Glasgow and I hold a CELTA.
What about other countries? I would love to hear about HK in particular. |
A BA/MA in __? It likely makes a difference as to where you can work.
As for Hong Kong, head over to the HK forum to post your questions. Be specific about your qualifications, credentials, experience, nationality, etc. |
English language and literature, it's called MA but it's actually a BA(some Scottish universities, including Glasgow, would call an actual MA Master of Literature). Also, I want to get a DELTA or a Master in the future.
Although Hong Kong is on top of my preferences, at this stage I would just like some general info about teaching EAP, it seems strange to me that not many people talk about it. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeff19 wrote: |
I am currently teaching EAP in Vietnam.
I work for an Australian university which provides well designed courses to people who want to study and live abroad or simply attend an English-speaking university.
The students are great, serious and willing to work hard, the pay is good, I have enough free time and in general the job is really interesting.
It seems I've found my ideal area of specialization but I don't want to stay in Vietnam forever.
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English language and literature, it's called MA but it's actually a BA(some Scottish universities, including Glasgow, would call an actual MA Master of Literature). Also, I want to get a DELTA or a Master in the future.
Although Hong Kong is on top of my preferences, at this stage I would just like some general info about teaching EAP, it seems strange to me that not many people talk about it. |
You likely don't see discussions about EAP because it's simply another type of ESP domain. In terms of non-Anglophone countries, it depends on supply and demand --- whether there's a market for it since most foreign students heading to the US, UK, Canada, etc., will enroll in EAP classes in their target country anyway.
EAP is commonly taught in the US and other English-speaking countries in either college/university intensive English programs (IEPs) or private language schools that likely partner with local universities. The goal is to prepare students for the level of English needed to enter university for their academic studies. Moreover, it's taught in the context of ESL and not EFL, relevant to the host culture. Instructors tend to have TESOL-related MAs and several years' experience teaching adult learners. International higher ed experience is a plus. In the US, the majority are locals/citizens; however, teachers of other nationalities are often hired, especially if their MA/doctorate was completed in an Anglophone country and they have the right type of experience. Take a look at Indiana University's IEP page: https://dsls.indiana.edu/programs/iep/index.html, which is typical of quals for teaching EAP in higher ed in the US.
Since you presently teach EAP for an Australian university that apparently has international campuses, why not see what qualifications you'd need to continue the same type of work in their other location(s) or in Oz? |
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Jeff19
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
You likely don't see discussions about EAP because it's simply another type of ESP domain. In terms of non-Anglophone countries, it depends on supply and demand --- whether there's a market for it since most foreign students heading to the US, UK, Canada, etc., will enroll in EAP classes in their target country anyway.
EAP is commonly taught in the US and other English-speaking countries in either college/university intensive English programs (IEPs) or private language schools that likely partner with local universities. The goal is to prepare students for the level of English needed to enter university for their academic studies. Moreover, it's taught in the context of ESL and not EFL, relevant to the host culture. Instructors tend to have TESOL-related MAs and several years' experience teaching adult learners. International higher ed experience is a plus. In the US, the majority are locals/citizens; however, teachers of other nationalities are often hired, especially if their MA/doctorate was completed in an Anglophone country and they have the right type of experience. Take a look at Indiana University's IEP page: https://dsls.indiana.edu/programs/iep/index.html, which is typical of quals for teaching EAP in higher ed in the US.
Since you presently teach EAP for an Australian university that apparently has international campuses, why not see what qualifications you'd need to continue the same type of work in their other location(s) or in Oz? |
Yes this is the most obvious thing to do, but apart from that I was interested in finding out more about other countries and whether or not there is a good market.
Thanks for the info about the US! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jeff19 wrote: |
| I was interested in finding out more about other countries and whether or not there is a good market. |
There are programs in other countries. Do an Internet search using:
english academic purposes china
english academic purposes hong kong |
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D. Amokachi
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| There's definitely a decent size market in China. There are a few British and American universities with campuses here or partnerships with local institutions. Most will require a DELTA or relevant MA though. |
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slaqdog
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:18 am Post subject: Italy or scotland |
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| I hear Italy is good, and Scotland too..... |
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mitsui
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China. Look for universities with a British connection.
IELTS training is something that will help. |
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