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[Laura C]

Following on from the 'Dodgy Jobs' thread, I just saw this on gaijinpot:

London Eigakuin
Position: Full-time Engish Teacher
Type: Mid-career
Full/Part Time: Full-time
Salary from: JPY 126,000/month


Let's hope the 126,000 was a typo, or that 'from' means 'twice as much as'.

Can anyone beat this?

L

[adomo]

I know a fellow teacher that's at a school in Okinawa who works 27hrs a week + prep and only gets paid Y150000. Does this sound reasonable considering it's in Okinawa?

[skarp]

Hardly reasonable.

I applied to the OP job, but will need to clarify the salary issue before taking the process very far.

Could be a misprint. Could be VERY low hours (though it states FT)

Could be free accom?

Anyway....


We'll see

Skarp

[Canuk girl]

I was offered a job at a FANCY Private Highschool, through a recruting company who wanted to pay me 100, 000Y/month for 38 hours a week. And they threatened me when I said I wouldn't take the job. (cause that's gonna make me want to work for them).

[einsenundnullen]

I've heard before of companies being aggressive (in different ways) when someone isn't interested in a job.

I read time and time again that the jobs market is tight, but a friend of mine who left one of the big 4 was told he'd have a job there at any time in the future. It's his guess that they're hurting for people.

Then, on the aggressive side of things, I was spoken to quite rudely when I told a woman I was not interested in coming to Tokyo for an interview. Why, she wondered... well it could have a lot to do with the 40,000 yen it would required to get there and back that her company was not about to reimburse.

cough cough http://www.generalunion.org/ cough
Another friend interviewed with the same company, and for one reason or another was assumed to have accepted the job (based on what I know of this fella, I don't believe for a moment that he accepted the job and then backed out). He said that his final communication with them was unpleasant (from their end, not his).

I know several people who stand out as a reliable, no nonsense folks. Any interviewer I think would come to that conclusion after even a short interview. Why these companies won't offer decent contracts (and based on what's been in the classifieds lately, a full 250K/month is decent these days), I have no idea. sneeze http://www.generalunion.org/ sniffle


Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
ahem, http://www.generalunion.org/

[skarp]

This is an old debate.

We are in a MacDonalds age. Commercial success is not about quality so much as creating a way to sell nothing at a price a lot of people can pay...

So we have Nova. And worse places I'm sure.

They want to employ the cheapest possible teachers....

Teaching is perceived as a nice job for unmarried women to do while they wait for Mr Right - so pay is never gonna be high.

And it's also thought of as easy. Especially EFL.


We are up against some real scheister managers who think that jobs are scarce and people will take anything.

Of course jobs are scarce when you don't have one. Anything seems good....but failing to pay a living let alone motivating wage is dumb as it comes.

These people think that students can't tell a competent teacher from any 23 year old with a 4 year degree. Well - news flash - they can. Even the little kids can tell the difference when they see it.

We few professionals have to keep educating the market. Sometimes I feel the managers are afraid of competent teachers, we are scarce and if the students get used to real EFL they won't settle for less in future.(how many of the adult eikaiwa students have studied abroad...very few, because they won't waste their time and money anymore)

..Having to find and pay competent teachers means much lower profit margins for the owners..

Let's face it, there is big money in EFL. But it doesn't reach the teachers who actually make the difference.

In time it might. I certainly hope so. I'm stuffed if I'm wrong.

Skarp