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Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shenzhen

 
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:33 am    Post subject: Chinese University of Hong Kong, Shenzhen Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have an interview coming up at this institution, and I'm just wondering if anyone has any information about conditions, salary, etc.

I currently work for a very good institution in China, and I'm very happy professionally. However, for a number of non-work-related reasons, I'm considering a move from my current city. CUHK-SZ, and maybe more importantly Shenzhen itself, seems like a potentially good fit.

Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

CSM
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eihpos



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard some negative things about it from someone who used to work there, mainly regarding management. I can put you in touch with the guy if you want to pm me.
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danmbob



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any updates? They have a job posting on the Tesol job board
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an interview, and I wasn't very impressed. They didn't seem well organized. Basically, the whole interview was some guy picking my brain about how we do things at my current institution.

Then, at the end of the interview, they asked me to send them my references. I said, well, two of my referees are my bosses here, and I obviously don't want to ask them for a letter unless I decide to leave, so, if you make me an informal offer and I decide to accept, then I'll send them. The interviewer said that wasn't ok - he needed them straightaway. So, that was pretty much the end of that.

Then, the next morning, without warning, I got some strange email from them saying that I had 24 hours to complete some kind of written task. I replied that I wanted to withdraw my application.

I'm sure they pay pretty well, and Shenzen is, in my opinion, a good place to live. If I weren't happy where I am, I might have considered it anyways. But I didn't get the feeling that they really know what they're doing down there.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Written test?
It wasn't that simplistic attitude and motivation test were to complete online was it?
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an interview there about six months ago. It seemed to go well, and I actually wanted to work there. They said they would contact me within a few days. After they didn't, I contacted the admin woman. She said they couldn't guarantee a job, but that my application was "positive." She said they would inform me shortly. Apparently they had to seek approval from the HK campus before hiring. So I suspect they recommended me, but were waiting for the nod. Anyway, they never got back... two weeks passed, sent them another email, same answer... another week, repeat... I stopped emailing. They never did bother to get back to me, just so typical of Chinese institutions. They couldn't even bother sending a generic email to inform an interviewee. I put weeks of work into that interview, and the sods treated me like dirt. Of all the interviews I have ever had at Chinese universities - and there are quite a few - not one ever bothered to get back to me when I wasn't successful. Tells you a lot about Chinese society in general, and the way workers are typically treated here.

Anyway, I soon got an even better position at higher academic rank, higher pay in a better location. They treat me very well. Very happy where I am.
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astrotrain



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject: astrotrain Reply with quote

RiverMystic wrote:
I had an interview there about six months ago. It seemed to go well, and I actually wanted to work there. They said they would contact me within a few days. After they didn't, I contacted the admin woman. She said they couldn't guarantee a job, but that my application was "positive." She said they would inform me shortly. Apparently they had to seek approval from the HK campus before hiring. So I suspect they recommended me, but were waiting for the nod. Anyway, they never got back... two weeks passed, sent them another email, same answer... another week, repeat... I stopped emailing. They never did bother to get back to me, just so typical of Chinese institutions. They couldn't even bother sending a generic email to inform an interviewee. I put weeks of work into that interview, and the sods treated me like dirt. Of all the interviews I have ever had at Chinese universities - and there are quite a few - not one ever bothered to get back to me when I wasn't successful. Tells you a lot about Chinese society in general, and the way workers are typically treated here.

Anyway, I soon got an even better position at higher academic rank, higher pay in a better location. They treat me very well. Very happy where I am.


I am glad you affirmed this behavior. I get it many times by stupid recruiters who respond to your application then you never hear from them again. Of course the docs I sent were watermarked but not responding is just rude and annoying.

I bet the reason for this behavior is in China there is a constant idiom that prevails in society. Humans are like ants, there is always a ton of applicants willing to take your place so common courtesy of replying to you goes out the window.

Twice this joker from a so called international school kept disappearing on me after I replied to his initial message.
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
Written test?
It wasn't that simplistic attitude and motivation test were to complete online was it?


Haha, I don't think so. This was a post-interview task or something. I took that test you're referring to back in 2011 during the process of applying for my foreign expert certificate. What a joke.

I am an orderly person Always Sometimes Never
I radiate childlike joy Always Sometimes Never

I literally could not believe the questions I was answering...
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