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backtochina2017
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| ChrisHenry15 wrote: |
| Most schools should have a notary in Admin and can assist with apostles upon request. |
I've never heard of a school assisting in getting an apostile. |
They meant the school you got your diploma from, not the school in China that you will work for. |
That's what I meant too, but I forgot to add that I was talking about US schools, not the schools in other countries so ......... . I'm pretty sure you get an explanation on how to do it on the school's registrar website. The registrar could send the notarized document to the next necessary official wherever, but remember it would have to have a return envelope or a FEDEX or UPS form with an account number on it. Are US schools going to get involved in that? No, they just send it back to you. You are then on your own in dealing with the rest. |
I have no idea what you are talking about. I am from the Detroit area. I got my diploma authenticated in December, and there was no "help" needed. I just called them up, they told me when to come in and it happened. Then, I went 10 minutes by car to a Secretary of State and got that notarized with something called "The Great Seal".
I have had more trouble with my physical and costs (lab people want $250) than the diploma. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| ChrisHenry15 wrote: |
| Most schools should have a notary in Admin and can assist with apostles upon request. |
I've never heard of a school assisting in getting an apostile. You have to receive the notarized diploma from the school and you are on you're own from there. Schools do however give you a procedure on how to get their documents apostilled.
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I'm pretty sure you get an explanation on how to do it on the school's registrar website. The registrar could send the notarized document to the next necessary official wherever, but remember it would have to have a return envelope or a FEDEX or UPS form with an account number on it. Are US schools going to get involved in that? No, they just send it back to you. You are then on your own in dealing with the rest. It's not difficult, it's just time consuming and somewhat expensive if you want to get it done in a timely manner. |
Just because you've personally never heard of a US university or college assisting with degree authentication/apostile doesn't mean none do; my registrar's office handled the process for me up through the state level for a small fee. So it certainly doesn't hurt to ask. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| backtochina2017 wrote: |
| I have had more trouble with my physical and costs (lab people want $250) than the diploma. |
See Low-cost US med tests & exam for employment visa for ways to reduce those costs. |
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astrotrain
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Dear god, no Canadians have done this recently?
I found this info at the Toronto Consular website,
http://toronto.china-consulate.org/eng/vp/na/t946459.htm
1) the degree needs to be notarized by notary public (basically a lawyer)
then 2) this is where I am stumped "is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province[/b]"
where, whom? I read the degree needs to be sealed by the register's office and stamped. what? I graduated 17 years ago, have my degree on the wall how can they seal it?
This whole process Beijing put up is one massive headache. This is the main reason why I nvr looked at Korean jobs, the authentication process is a lengthy bureaucratic, time consuming and costly mess.
I really wonder if I should stick to Guangxi schools since the above is not a requirement (so far).
Any fellow Canadians that have done this notarization before please enlighten.
Step 1.
The document is to be notarized by a local notary public, lawyer or Commissioner of Oaths of Canada.
Step 2.
The document, notarized where the Chinese Consulate General holds consular jurisdiction (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General) is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province (territory).
Step 3.
The document is to be authenticated by the Chinese Embassy or Consulate General in accordance with the location where it is notarized (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General ).
Please click for the information of the authentication offices of the Canadian Foreign Affairs Department or the relevant province (territory). |
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papuadn
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisHenry15 wrote: |
| Most schools should have a notary in Admin and can assist with apostles upon request. |
Don't let them assign you Judas. |
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wuliuchiba
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:06 am Post subject: Photocopy |
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| I am currently in China and keep having problems with having mail delivered to me from overseas, mail keeps getting lost. I don't want to have to travel all the way back home to the U.S. just to pick up this one item. I had my degree notarized and approved by the Chinese embassy in the U.S., and my parents mailed it off to my school, but it never arrived - it's been several months. Since all the government requires is a copy of my degree, if I have my notarized degree scanned and sent to my email, shouldn't a printed copy be acceptable, if it has all the official stamps? |
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JoThomas
Joined: 08 Jan 2017
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| astrotrain wrote: |
Dear god, no Canadians have done this recently?
I found this info at the Toronto Consular website,
http://toronto.china-consulate.org/eng/vp/na/t946459.htm
1) the degree needs to be notarized by notary public (basically a lawyer)
then 2) this is where I am stumped "is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province[/b]"
where, whom? I read the degree needs to be sealed by the register's office and stamped. what? I graduated 17 years ago, have my degree on the wall how can they seal it?
This whole process Beijing put up is one massive headache. This is the main reason why I nvr looked at Korean jobs, the authentication process is a lengthy bureaucratic, time consuming and costly mess.
I really wonder if I should stick to Guangxi schools since the above is not a requirement (so far).
Any fellow Canadians that have done this notarization before please enlighten.
Step 1.
The document is to be notarized by a local notary public, lawyer or Commissioner of Oaths of Canada.
Step 2.
The document, notarized where the Chinese Consulate General holds consular jurisdiction (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General) is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province (territory).
Step 3.
The document is to be authenticated by the Chinese Embassy or Consulate General in accordance with the location where it is notarized (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General ).
Please click for the information of the authentication offices of the Canadian Foreign Affairs Department or the relevant province (territory). |
Hey Astro,
I can try and assist. I had this process done about three years ago. What they mean is that the Chinese embassy/consulate in Ontario will authenticate it once you have it notarized by a lawyer.
In regards to the transcripts. You can go to your old uni or online and order sealed transcripts. These have a stamp on them and you can send them to whatever address you want. If you live near your university go to the registrar's office and pick up some sealed transcripts. You usually have to pay about $10.00 each for them, but they will seal them and give them to you to send away to wherever you want. |
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JoThomas
Joined: 08 Jan 2017
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Photocopy |
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| wuliuchiba wrote: |
| I am currently in China and keep having problems with having mail delivered to me from overseas, mail keeps getting lost. I don't want to have to travel all the way back home to the U.S. just to pick up this one item. I had my degree notarized and approved by the Chinese embassy in the U.S., and my parents mailed it off to my school, but it never arrived - it's been several months. Since all the government requires is a copy of my degree, if I have my notarized degree scanned and sent to my email, shouldn't a printed copy be acceptable, if it has all the official stamps? |
I am also having problems getting air mail delivered in China from Canada. I've been waiting three weeks for a small package and hope to get it soon. I have already had a package sent from Canada that never was delivered to me.
I am not sure if the scanned degree will work. They usually want a original notarized copy, but you should check with whoever needs it to be sure. |
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astrotrain
Joined: 18 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| astrotrain wrote: |
Dear god, no Canadians have done this recently?
I found this info at the Toronto Consular website,
http://toronto.china-consulate.org/eng/vp/na/t946459.htm
1) the degree needs to be notarized by notary public (basically a lawyer)
then 2) this is where I am stumped "is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province[/b]"
where, whom? I read the degree needs to be sealed by the register's office and stamped. what? I graduated 17 years ago, have my degree on the wall how can they seal it?
This whole process Beijing put up is one massive headache. This is the main reason why I nvr looked at Korean jobs, the authentication process is a lengthy bureaucratic, time consuming and costly mess.
I really wonder if I should stick to Guangxi schools since the above is not a requirement (so far).
Any fellow Canadians that have done this notarization before please enlighten.
Step 1.
The document is to be notarized by a local notary public, lawyer or Commissioner of Oaths of Canada.
Step 2.
The document, notarized where the Chinese Consulate General holds consular jurisdiction (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General) is to be authenticated by the authentication office of the relevant province (territory).
Step 3.
The document is to be authenticated by the Chinese Embassy or Consulate General in accordance with the location where it is notarized (Please click for consular jurisdiction of the Chinese Embassy and Consulates General ).
Please click for the information of the authentication offices of the Canadian Foreign Affairs Department or the relevant province (territory). |
Hey Astro,
I can try and assist. I had this process done about three years ago. What they mean is that the Chinese embassy/consulate in Ontario will authenticate it once you have it notarized by a lawyer.
In regards to the transcripts. You can go to your old uni or online and order sealed transcripts. These have a stamp on them and you can send them to whatever address you want. If you live near your university go to the registrar's office and pick up some sealed transcripts. You usually have to pay about $10.00 each for them, but they will seal them and give them to you to send away to wherever you want. |
Thanks Joe, maybe rules have changed but they want you to go to the Feds or provincial gov't to do the second step b4 you give the final papers to the Consulate for the stamp.
I found this is the place I should take the degree after notary republic endorses it. Real pain in the arse, hopefully I get this done right quick.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/authenticate-document-use-outside-canada#section-5 |
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JoThomas
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| ^glad it worked out for you, Astro. I guess things have changed and it seems so much more time consuming now! |
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JoThomas
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:55 am Post subject: |
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I just found out that I have to get my degree authenticated and I am switching jobs within China. Has anyone had their degree authenticated at the Beijing Consulate? If so, what was involved and how long did it take to get back?
Appreciate any information!
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