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rachelmay · Joined: 05 Dec 2016 Posts: 3

HI all,
I m sorry to bother, I know its low chance...if anyone here can give me some ideas:

Any chance to teaching in China for a USA black man aged 57 (look like 47), non degree holder, no english teaching experience or certificate.

Any course can take if can help.

Thanks everyone.

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

Except for your nationality, pretty much everything you list in your profile is a strike against you in terms of employment -- legal or otherwise.

Look into Mexico and Central and South America where you might be able to find valid work with just a CELTA or SIT TESOL cert. I suggest you head to those forums for more info and guidance.

getbehindthemule · Joined: 15 Oct 2015 Posts: 712 Location: Shanghai

Your lack of quals and the fact that you cannot legally teach here without a degree means you're most likely wasting your time.
Since you brought up the black man element, the vast majority of Chinese still consider people with black skin to be scary, dirty and dangerous even.

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou · Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003

rioux · Joined: 26 Apr 2012 Posts: 880

Check this out:

(No degree and experience is acceptable!!!)

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/index.cgi?read=46134

Here's one for Thailand.
http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/index.cgi?read=42074

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:15 am Post subject:

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

rachelmay · Joined: 05 Dec 2016 Posts: 3

Thanks everyone. I was thinking to take a dgree course but after that I will be over 60, thats more diffiult to get a job, seems not a good investmennt though.

creeper1 · Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:21 am Post subject:

Of course there is a chance. Demand is huge and plenty of people on the mainland not strictly meeting the native speaker requirements nevertheless get work.

Ok. You don't have a degree and that's a major drawback but I'm sure it's not a killer blow.

I am more interested in how you came at the age of 57 to be interested in a complete career change. Tefl involves leaving home etc. What is your background?

jimpellow · Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913

The poster needs to strike China from his wish list. Even if the age and racial discrimination did not exist, the lack of experience and degree will not meet current requirements for working papers. I think overall East Asia will be tough to crack.

I have three online gigs; Saudi Arabia, France and Japan. The fact that I am 50 means nothing in the first two. However, I get very few students in Japan, despite rave reviews and a George Clooney like sexy profile pic.

You might be yet another teacher who I would think may be better served by trying to build a career online. You may also want to consider some country like Armenia. These out of the way countries can be quite nice to live in, and with a lot less competition and stringent requirements for working papers. You don't see job ads for many of these kind of countries, but ESL job opportunities exist. You could also look at a hybrid solution of online work and picking up work/tutoring while living there.

nomad soul · Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world

rachelmay · Joined: 05 Dec 2016 Posts: 3

Thanks for those valuable comments, you all are so kind.
The reason why I want to come to China is my wife and her family is there.

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou · Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003