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Getting an L visa with a single ticket

 
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China2



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject: Getting an L visa with a single ticket Reply with quote

A person I know has just had his L visa application rejected due to the fact that he had only bought a single ticket to Beijing. They told him that he needed a return.

As the online single flight ticket cannot be cancelled, would an ongoing ticket to Hong Kong suffice? So it would be a ticket from a European destination - Beijing, and then a separate ticket Beijing - Hong Kong. Would the embassy accept this or as Hong Kong is still part of China would the embassy reject his application again? Does anyone have any suggestions?

thanks - much appreciated
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For tourism HK is treated as a sep country so an outward PEK-HK should be OK.
BUT is does raise a red flag about intentions.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countries want to see proof of onward travel. I can't see why they would insist on a return ticket - but this is the PRC we are talking about.

I think a throwaway ticket to HK may not be the best destination. I would have him look at the Philippines, Korea, Japan, Vietnam etc. Refundable tickets usually work, but some airlines will no longer process the refund if they feel its intent was as a throwaway ticket.

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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long does the OP intend to stay? If he intends to stay no longer than his visa allows, then why wouldn't he buy a return ticket?

If he wants to get a job and stay in China, he will have a difficult time with that. Though there are persistent and (as always) unsubstantiated fairy tales about converting an L visa to a Z visa in-country with a fast checkout line, the OP should be very wary.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came to Guangdong on an L visa and the university where I work converted it to a Z visa. I now have the standard 1 year residence permit for foreign experts, work permit, etc.

I needed a return ticket or I would not have been given a boarding pass to go from Los Angeles to Guangzhou. The ticket agent checked thoroughly.

So I wasted the money on the return ticket Sad

On the plus side, I really like my life here and I really like the teaching work. Good pay, fair standards, nice students.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember your fairy tale.

The story sounds like something promulgated by HFG several years ago.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsHoffman wrote:
I came to Guangdong on an L visa and the university where I work converted it to a Z visa. I now have the standard 1 year residence permit for foreign experts, work permit, etc.

I needed a return ticket or I would not have been given a boarding pass to go from Los Angeles to Guangzhou. The ticket agent checked thoroughly.

So I wasted the money on the return ticket Sad

On the plus side, I really like my life here and I really like the teaching work. Good pay, fair standards, nice students.


What was the date validity on the return journey?
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsHoffman wrote:
I came to Guangdong on an L visa and the university where I work converted it to a Z visa. I now have the standard 1 year residence permit for foreign experts, work permit, etc.

I needed a return ticket or I would not have been given a boarding pass to go from Los Angeles to Guangzhou. The ticket agent checked thoroughly.

So I wasted the money on the return ticket Sad

On the plus side, I really like my life here and I really like the teaching work. Good pay, fair standards, nice students.


Hard to say if this is the same issue. You came on the new visa-on-arrival program. We have no idea what his friend is up to.

I have expressed my opinion before that it is extremely stupid (on the part of the Chinese government as usual) to force people to lie and get another visa to get to China. Once the applicant has been accepted to come to China to enter at a participating port-of-entry for the visa-on-arrival program, some sort of authorized letter should be sent to the applicant to allow them passage to the port-of-entry.

BTW, happy to hear that things have worked out well for you. Smile
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The conditions for visa-on-arrival don't include obtaining a visa for work.

http://www.beijingesc.com/visa-on-arrival.html

and

http://www.hongdaservice.com/blog/5-day-shenzhen-visa-on-arrival-for-foreigners-now-available.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote:
The conditions for visa-on-arrival don't include obtaining a visa for work.

http://www.beijingesc.com/visa-on-arrival.html

and

http://www.hongdaservice.com/blog/5-day-shenzhen-visa-on-arrival-for-foreigner