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Hatcher
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:43 am Post subject: Pros n con of the KSA |
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Cons - no health care or police, no labor board... weak students
Pros - lots of free time if you can find something to do |
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ginger123
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Cons : everything
Pros: money |
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siologen
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:10 am Post subject: re: money every time... |
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| Every ex saudi teacher I met in Oman, mentioned that the money was the main motivator. One seemed to think that grocery shopping was cheaper in Saudi compared with Oman, anyone confirm or deny that one? |
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Pros:
camping & 4x4 traveling, low cost living, ease of compound life, light work hours, high salary, high savings potential, long vacations, PTO, generally safe.
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heat, students are a major challenge, shop closings for PC, traffic/driving = accident potential |
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currentaffairs
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| cnthaiksarok wrote: |
Pros:
camping & 4x4 traveling, low cost living, ease of compound life, light work hours, high salary, high savings potential, long vacations, PTO, generally safe.
Cons:
heat, students are a major challenge, shop closings for PC, traffic/driving = accident potential |
I agree with most of this apart from light work hours. 20 hours a week on any PYP program can be a killer. Some of the students are crazy and extremely tiring. You mention that they can be a major challenge and you are right! |
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I-forgot
Joined: 28 Jun 2015
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Location: Riyadh
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: re: money every time... |
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| siologen wrote: |
| Every ex saudi teacher I met in Oman, mentioned that the money was the main motivator. One seemed to think that grocery shopping was cheaper in Saudi compared with Oman, anyone confirm or deny that one? |
I haven't compared receipts but that is my impression too.
With regards to compound life, yes, it is lovely but remember that it is unavailable for the majority of teachers who have housing allowances of 2-3k per month. Not all English teachers work for Aramco or BAE and live at Salwa! |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014
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Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: re: money every time... |
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| I-forgot wrote: |
| siologen wrote: |
| Every ex saudi teacher I met in Oman, mentioned that the money was the main motivator. One seemed to think that grocery shopping was cheaper in Saudi compared with Oman, anyone confirm or deny that one? |
I haven't compared receipts but that is my impression too.
With regards to compound life, yes, it is lovely but remember that it is unavailable for the majority of teachers who have housing allowances of 2-3k per month. Not all English teachers work for Aramco or BAE and live at Salwa! |
Salwa is nice, but I think I might get cabin fever after a while. It's quite a way out, everyone on there working for the same company,
After visiting, I decided I'd be happier on another compound with more of a variety of people.
The refreshment facilities were good though.... |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: re: money every time... |
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| siologen wrote: |
| Every ex saudi teacher I met in Oman, mentioned that the money was the main motivator. One seemed to think that grocery shopping was cheaper in Saudi compared with Oman, anyone confirm or deny that one? |
Can't compare prices with Oman, but food prices are definitely cheaper in Saudi than Bahrain.
We're a family of four and we live on about 5-6k a month. And we live pretty well too.
I think the thing is that once you have all your gadgets, appliances etc, there's nothing to spend your money on. |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| currentaffairs wrote: |
| I agree with most of this apart from light work hours. 20 hours a week on any PYP program can be a killer. Some of the students are crazy and extremely tiring. You mention that they can be a major challenge and you are right! |
PYP? I've got military cadets(!) Heh
Still, I leave compound at 6:15am, punch in around 7:00am....home by 2:15pm.
Get cut loose early on occasion and do a fair amount of over-paid chair warming in the off-season. :p
Not too shabby compared to the work hours I could be facing back in my home of the U.S. |
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scot47
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| Teaching PYP inSaudi Arabia is not difficult. Try teaching adult males in a military environement - especially the older ones who are not literate in their first language. |
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cnthaiksarok
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| not literate in their first language. |
ABsoLutely, Scot!!
This is one of our biggest, deepest, widest and most prevailing challenges.
Put in a pinch of good ole' ADD and sprinkle in some dyslexia mixed with consanguinity and you've got the makings for one interesting course
(that no one is technically qualified to teach).
shh |
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Hatcher
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| For me, no police, labor board or health care are the biggest cons |
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bigdurian
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| Hatcher wrote: |
| For me, no police, labor board or health care are the biggest cons |
What do you mean by no police, they do exist and all the dealings I've had with them have been okay. They're certainly not corrupt in the same way that police in SE Asian or S.American countries are.
As for health care, that's a ridiculous thing to say seeing how by law it must be provided. The thing is to get a job that provides a good level of healthcare. Presumably you didn't. |
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In the heat of the moment
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| ginger123 wrote: |
Cons : everything
Pros: money |
Concise and correct! Who wants loads of free time if there is sweet FA to do? Go rambling in 40+ heat? No thanks. Shopping? Gets old quick. See the local culture? What, you mean the piles of rubble and dirty, dusty bland architecture.
Yes, food is cheap but that is classed as part of 'money'. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Please note that you are presently on the Saudi Arabia forum.
So it is then that two Thailand focused postings previously on this thread were just deleted.
Continuing to derail threads with off-topic postings will result in sanctions.
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