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tin man
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 Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject: visa |
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I didn't want to deal with this mess living outside of the state where I got my degree, even though some teachers seem to think the process is simple it sounded like a cluster F to me. The good news is that these agencies can apparently get around the red tape but I got lucky with the school taking responsibility for the agent. I would hate to gamble on it myself but I can recommend my agent if they get the job done.
In addition, my agency also told me yesterday that the medical check is no longer required in the US. Does anyone concur? |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| dakelei wrote: |
| I contacted my university and was told I need to do it in person. I can't FedEx myself there. |
Unless there's some sort of hold on your academic records, that makes no sense -- former international students who have returned home certainly wouldn't be expected to fly all the way to the US just to get their American diploma verified.
Did you speak directly with the registrar? That's who you need to contact and ask about other options to have this done. |
Though there's a LOT of conflicting information out there (especially on embassy and consulate websites), this is good advice. Call the registrar's office directly and ask for a good time to talk to him if he's not available. For verification purposes (if you are from the U.S.), your social security number is authentication of your identification. (One's SS is usually one's permanent student ID. .
Try emailing the registrar first to set up a time to talk. Provide your SS number (or the last seven digits of it as proof that you are who you say you are). |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| For verification purposes (if you are from the U.S.), your social security number is authentication of your identification. (One's SS is usually one's permanent student ID. |
FYI: For privacy/security reasons, many universities stopped using SSNs for student ID numbers 10+ years ago. Some states even have legislation prohibiting this practice.
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"This guidance addresses the use of Social Security Numbers (SSNs) by educational institutions for various student identification purposes, the current trend of moving away from SSNs as student identifiers in favor of “alternative identifiers” to minimize the risk of inadvertent disclosure, and frequently asked questions about legal compliance under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) when SSNs are used by an educational institution in some
capacity. Source: FERPA and Social Security Numbers |
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astrotrain
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: visa |
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| tin man wrote: |
In addition, my agency also told me yesterday that the medical check is no longer required in the US. Does anyone concur? |
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I got confirmation from my old school in Guangxi province that the medical check can be done in China after you arrive. Not sure all schools/provinces follow this or want to acknowledge it since they are worried about the future employees croking when they get there but I had my check in CND anyways. [/list] |
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tin man
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:08 pm Post subject: medical |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: agent |
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Nomad
The agent claims that they can get the degree and police check authenticated. The school recommended them and taking responsibility. I will know more in the next few weeks how they perform.
I can't comment yet on quitting my day job  . I do enjoy teaching. |
Actually, my response was directed at dakelei. 
But good luck getting all of your requirements taken care of. |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I see increasingly jobs posted on wechat for 25000+, wish I'd waited some what to accept my next semesters job. Oh well. I think part of this is the difficulty of teachers who have never been to China having to spend months and a thousand dollars on all this visa stuff. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
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| I am looking to cut through the red tape and find a visa service that can handle the cumbersome authentication for a US degree and not finding any in the search. Any recommendations on visa services that can get it done? |
Google document authentication services to find an agent in your state.
It's really not a cumbersome process. You'd need to contact your university registrar's office to ask them about certifying the validity of your degree (with the registrar's notarized affidavit) for employment in China. Once that's done, the document would need to go to the secretary of state for the certificate of authentication. (This would be the SoS in the state your university is located in.) I suggest you check the SoS's website or contact them to see what their process is; some states require an additional step at the county level. After the state does its thing, follow the rest of the process per the Chinese consulate's instructions.
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| There simply aren't any that can handle every step. I currently live in one state and the university from which I graduated is in another. Each step requires not only a multi-hour drive but must be completed on a weekday, during regular business hours. I work those hours. |
No need to drive everywhere; use FedEx.
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Good luck getting a degree certified. If one needs to prove that one's degree is valid, the route is now verification, and because of the massive amount of data required to manage a school's enrollment , graduation, and award of degrees, all but the smallest colleges have turned the job over to:
www.degreeverify.org
What provision in the authentication process requires certification of the degree?
I doubt that the Chinese Powerz that Bee would accept such a document.
Herein one may find the requirements for authentication of American degrees:
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/t907716.htm
An applicant must procure his documents and required authentication himself. After obtaining the medical check (if required by the school), your authenticated degree and other required documents such as your passport you may send them to :
https://www.traveldocs.com/expedited-visa-services/China-visa-processing-country46
Good luck. |
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nomad soul
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