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Leno



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:03 pm    Post subject: unqualified/qualified TEFLers & universities Reply with quote

Is there anyone who wants to refute that Saudi universities have no knowledge of unqualified inexperienced native speakers or passport holders teaching in Foundation years Programs?

Do you think Saudi universities do not look at/see the profiles of those applicants/employees and related information on their passports, names, age, family status, educational background, visa status (business or visit visa by agent companies or government visit visa from Saudi universities) etc etc ?

Universities as any employer in Saudi Arabia do have all info of skilled /unskilled foreign employees in their employee system, even if they are hired through agents under business/visit visa. This is how universities claim the budget from government that they hire this many foreign teachers to teach and pay housing, healthcare, visa fees, hiring fees to agents, air tickets, etc etc.
Meaning, if a foreigner signed the contract with the agent company or the university before arrival and entered the kingdom under visit or business visa, that would be the pure knowledge of the university and it is legal.
"Legally working and holding a resident card" doesn't mean one can go to labour authority to claim the unpaid salaries or compensation, because if you did so, the employer would not renew your visa or your residence card, nor allow your transfer to a new employer and your salaries would be stopped, and you would probably be evicted from your housing, your bank account, your medical insurance and phone connection would be blocked, etc etc, .
As a result, you would either end up overstaying the visa, and paying the fines/fees, or being deported/forced to exit the country without your salaries.
So, enter at your own risk, even under visit/business visa, because it is 100% legal to work and its the employer's choice to offer this visa even to skilled experienced TEFLers.
The average lifespan of TEFLers in the kingdom is from 6 months to less than 2 years, because according to Saudi law, the third time renewal of your resident card means you have become a permanent resident of the kingdom ( green card holder)
If someone wants to say "I was there for 12 years then another 18 years", I would say " good for you, you lost your Saudi green card". Laughing
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Foo_Fighters_Dave



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you trying to say?
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect an alcohol effect... definitely completely incoherent.

VS
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ayatollah



Joined: 16 Jun 2017
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:09 pm    Post subject: Under a rock Reply with quote

Living under a rock, leafing though those Labor Laws, in very poor light. Full of contradictions.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not understand any of this
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Leno



Joined: 20 Dec 2015
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
I suspect an alcohol effect... definitely completely incoherent.

VS


Do you know that it is Haram to mention alcohol in Saudi forum?
You would turn to Dave ESL job site after drinking?

Please do not write unrelated stuff, as posters here talk about ESL teaching jobs, visa situation, resident cards, and labour disputes in the country.
Thank you
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leno wrote:
veiledsentiments wrote:
I suspect an alcohol effect... definitely completely incoherent.

VS


Do you know that it is Haram to mention alcohol in Saudi forum?
You would turn to Dave ESL job site after drinking?

Please do not write unrelated stuff, as posters here talk about ESL teaching jobs, visa situation, resident cards, and labour disputes in the country.
Thank you

While I don't drink at all, obviously you do... and it is seriously affecting your writing.

You began this thread with incomprehensible gibberish and now you have turned to farce.

VS
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