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shasha123



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:00 am    Post subject: A non-native's teaching journey... Reply with quote

Hello Smile
As a non-native TEFL-er wannabe, which countries should I focus on in terms of employment?
Salary wise, breaking even is fine, as I'm more interested in immersing myself in foreign cultures. I have a (non-related) undergraduate degree and CELTA.

I'd appreciate any advice/ suggestions. Thank you Smile
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bograt



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have experience I'd say apply for the British Council in countries where they don't have local laws that discriminate against non-native teachers. E.g. Hong Kong. The BC likes to show how diverse it is when given the chance so you might have an edge.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: A non-native's teaching journey... Reply with quote

What's your nationality? Also, do you have any teaching experience?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As a non-native TEFL-er wannabe, which countries should I focus on in terms of employment?


The easiest answer is 'where you can get a legal work permit.' This is often more closely related to your country of origin than to your qualifications. Where are you from?
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shasha123



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion Bograt Smile
Unfortunately, I have no experience yet.

Hi Nomad Soul Smile
No teaching experience yet. I'm from Malaysia.


Hi Spiral78 Smile
Thank you for your feedbacK. Yes, I suppose I should start looking up info on work permits.
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workingnomad



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd guess you will find it easier in Malaysia itself.

Outside of there you are in competition with native speakers and cheap Filipinos who'll undercut you. The latter might also be true in Malaysia due to the large number there.
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suphanburi



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shasha123 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion Bograt Smile
Unfortunately, I have no experience yet.

Hi Nomad Soul Smile
No teaching experience yet. I'm from Malaysia.


Hi Spiral78 Smile
Thank you for your feedbacK. Yes, I suppose I should start looking up info on work permits.


If you sound Singaporean and have a decent TOEIC score then Thailand is an option - especially outside and north of Bangkok.

You can get a visa and work permit in Thailand. You will need a valid TOEIC test (IELTS and TOEFL are also accepted), your degree, academic transcripts and police clearance. With no experience you will be starting at about 20k baht/month (about 2500 ringgit) and no extra benefits.

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shasha123



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Suphanburi,

Noted. Thank you for your feedback Smile
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bluething



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Sasha doesn't mind my derailing of his topic, I'd ask the same question. If he minds I may consider starting a new topic.
This is my 15th year as a teacher, I'm Romanian.
I've taught Ss from 5 -62 years of age, I've taught Literature, Phonetics, History of US/UK, Culture and Civilisation besides EFL. I'm also a teacher of Spanish. I have a professional development scholarship from The University of Oregon. I know it's easy for me to get a job in China and Turkey. What about other places?
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shasha123



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bluething Smile

Sure, go ahead. It's relevant to the topic Smile
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suphanburi



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the answer is similar. Any place that can legally hire you will also likely treat you in a similar fashion
OR
They will hire you (a white faced European) at a slightly higher rate than a brown skinned NNES because they cannot find a NES teacher and you will do (you look like one) until one comes along. Your job security will be as short lived.

Racism and bias are alive, well, and legal in most of East and South East Asia.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluething wrote:
This is my 15th year as a teacher, I'm Romanian.

I've taught Ss from 5 -62 years of age, I've taught Literature, Phonetics, History of US/UK, Culture and Civilisation besides EFL. I'm also a teacher of Spanish. I have a professional development scholarship from The University of Oregon. I know it's easy for me to get a job in China and Turkey. What about other places?

This topic has been discussed within the past 6 months in this forum. See Non-native English speaker - what are my options in Asia and (Non native) Newbie wants to teach abroad ! Advice needed.
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