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alonzo9772
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 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:10 am Post subject: Is it true that a public school can be late with salaries? |
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I am wanting to teach in Beijing public middle school. An agent told me that he can't 100% guarantee that the public school would pay the salaries on time. Is that true that there might be a chance of being paid late?
I asked for only public school because I want guaranteed salaries but if I'm not going to get that, I might as well work in English First. |
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teenoso
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There are some reasons , like national holidays, why your salary may be paid a few days late (or even early), perhaps that is what the agent means. I don't think this is unreasonable , though of course it can be annoying.
If your salary is paid through the agent, then I would be more worried. |
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rogerwilco
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Guarantees in China ?
I once worked for a public college that claimed to have 6 foreign teachers, but there were only 3 of us. Someone was putting money from the budget into their own pocket.
Earlier I worked for a public high school where the foreign teachers always got paid a week or two later than the local teachers. Why ? Who knows...
Working through an agent that gets paid from the school, and then the agent pays you ? Good luck with that.
To keep your sanity in China you always need enough in savings for any emergencies, or as F.U. money. |
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cormac
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All schools or universities are going to pay late. Within a ten month contract, you'll probably be paid late 6 times. It's just the way things go here.
Just be careful that each month doesn't get progressively later, and then they hit you with a new permanent payment date.  |
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alonzo9772
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| teenoso wrote: |
There are some reasons , like national holidays, why your salary may be paid a few days late (or even early), perhaps that is what the agent means. I don't think this is unreasonable , though of course it can be annoying.
If your salary is paid through the agent, then I would be more worried. |
Yes, that's fine for there to be a delay because of holidays. A few days late is fine. What is unacceptable is more than 1 week late. There is absolutely no reason for a public school to be that late. There is no such thing as tuition.
No, I don't think the agent has anything to do with salary. He is probably just giving me a worst case scenario warning. |
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The bear
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| cormac wrote: |
All schools or universities are going to pay late. Within a ten month contract, you'll probably be paid late 6 times. It's just the way things go here.
Just be careful that each month doesn't get progressively later, and then they hit you with a new permanent payment date. |
Really? I've worked for 4 universities in China, none of which paid late. Ever.
The only people who I personally know who have been paid late were private school employees. Not saying it can't happen, but 6/10 times is an exaggeration for sure. |
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Blistering Zanazilz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The bear wrote: |
| cormac wrote: |
All schools or universities are going to pay late. Within a ten month contract, you'll probably be paid late 6 times. It's just the way things go here.
Just be careful that each month doesn't get progressively later, and then they hit you with a new permanent payment date. |
Really? I've worked for 4 universities in China, none of which paid late. Ever.
The only people who I personally know who have been paid late were private school employees. Not saying it can't happen, but 6/10 times is an exaggeration for sure. |
I've also never been paid late at any of the universities I've worked for. More often than not I was actually paid a few days early. |
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alonzo9772
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, hold on. I want to work in a public middle school. Not a university. We're beginning to get off topic. |
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Blistering Zanazilz
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| alonzo9772 wrote: |
| Well, hold on. I want to work in a public middle school. Not a university. We're beginning to get off topic. |
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I worked at one high school, and also never paid late. Anyway you'll never get a 100% guarantee of anything and you're only going to find out if you'll get paid on time once you're on the job. |
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cormac
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| The bear wrote: |
Really? I've worked for 4 universities in China, none of which paid late. Ever.
The only people who I personally know who have been paid late were private school employees. Not saying it can't happen, but 6/10 times is an exaggeration for sure. |
And I've worked in 5 public universities and all of them paid late at different times.
I'm not complaining. It's just something that happens. Perhaps it's a Shaanxi thing. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Are we talking cash payment or direct credit into your bank - or both? |
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alonzo9772
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| Are we talking cash payment or direct credit into your bank - or both? |
Of course a bank money transfer. Why would someone accept a cash salary? Debit cards are very convenient to use. |
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Non Sequitur
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Why 'of course'?
I was paid in cash up to and including 2011 and in some provinces foreigners are precluded from opening bank accounts. |
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alonzo9772
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Why 'of course'?
I was paid in cash up to and including 2011 and in some provinces foreigners are precluded from opening bank accounts. |
Really? Which ones? I would think that foreigners can have bank accounts in Beijing and Shanghai. |
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Blistering Zanazilz
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Why 'of course'?
I was paid in cash up to and including 2011 and in some provinces foreigners are precluded from opening bank accounts. |
Precluded from opening a bank account? Where? Sure, someone may have posted something to that effect on here, but I doubt there's any truth to that rumor. If you're working legally in this country then your employer is going to set up an account for your direct deposit. Even in the unlikely situation someone is still paid in cash, they'd need somewhere to deposit their money after payday. Getting paid in cash and keeping stacks of money under your mattress is a thing of the past, even in China. Jesus, since Wechat Pay became ubiquitous people hardly even use cash here any longer. |
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