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katia04
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 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:12 am Post subject: Evaluations from Miinistry of Education (Uni) |
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| I was recently informed that classes at my college are being audited by the Ministry of Education at the end of this term. Has anyone heard about this or had any experience with this? The information from the department head that I have gotten has been pretty vague: "just save their tests." |
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Blistering Zanazilz
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| These evaluations happen from time to time and are nothing out of the ordinary. Just keep whatever it is you're being told to keep and if someone asks for it you're prepared. |
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cormac
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Evaluations from Miinistry of Education (Uni) |
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| katia04 wrote: |
| I was recently informed that classes at my college are being audited by the Ministry of Education at the end of this term. Has anyone heard about this or had any experience with this? The information from the department head that I have gotten has been pretty vague: "just save their tests." |
In the past when they've done this, they've mostly focused on the Chinese staff. However, you're likely to get 2-3 inspectors 'randomly' attend your classes to observe your teaching over the course of two days although they'll be there a week.
I wouldn't worry too much. The inspectors tend to be 'older' Chinese teachers with party connections from other provinces, with already a clear idea of how most FTs are like. I received a glowing appraisal from them, simply because I'd encouraged debate within the classroom. If your students appear to be enjoying your class and providing active participation, then you'll be fine.
The exam papers were examined from the store of the Records office and I didn't need to provide anything myself. It's nothing for a FT to worry about, unless your classes are a mess. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Evaluations from Miinistry of Education (Uni) |
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| cormac wrote: |
| katia04 wrote: |
| I was recently informed that classes at my college are being audited by the Ministry of Education at the end of this term. Has anyone heard about this or had any experience with this? The information from the department head that I have gotten has been pretty vague: "just save their tests." |
In the past when they've done this, they've mostly focused on the Chinese staff. However, you're likely to get 2-3 inspectors 'randomly' attend your classes to observe your teaching over the course of two days although they'll be there a week.
I wouldn't worry too much. The inspectors tend to be 'older' Chinese teachers with party connections from other provinces, with already a clear idea of how most FTs are like. I received a glowing appraisal from them, simply because I'd encouraged debate within the classroom. If your students appear to be enjoying your class and providing active participation, then you'll be fine.
The exam papers were examined from the store of the Records office and I didn't need to provide anything myself. It's nothing for a FT to worry about, unless your classes are a mess. |
Not trying to give you a hard time, but I found it a little odd that you received a glowing appraisal. You did everything that older Chinese teachers do not do. Not even sure if the Party wants students to learn debate. I will agree that they are pleased when the students appear pleased. |
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Non Sequitur
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They came to Dalian Maritime once when I was there. FTs with spare time were drafted to attend classes that ordinarily didn't have one.
None of the dozen or so FTs reported an inspector visit. |
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Non Sequitur
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They came to Dalian Maritime once when I was there. FTs with spare time were drafted to attend classes that ordinarily didn't have one.
None of the dozen or so FTs reported an inspector visit. |
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cormac
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Evaluations from Miinistry of Education (Uni) |
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| jimpellow wrote: |
| Not trying to give you a hard time, but I found it a little odd that you received a glowing appraisal. You did everything that older Chinese teachers do not do. Not even sure if the Party wants students to learn debate. I will agree that they are pleased when the students appear pleased. |
Why? Chinese administrations want us to be different from the Chinese teachers. Otherwise we would all be teaching oral English.
As for debate, it was a business ethics class for CFA. I use what works. |
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Non Sequitur
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| One knowledgable FT suggested that the reason the inspectors didn't come to our classes was because their English wasn't up to it. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Evaluations from Miinistry of Education (Uni) |
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| cormac wrote: |
| jimpellow wrote: |
| Not trying to give you a hard time, but I found it a little odd that you received a glowing appraisal. You did everything that older Chinese teachers do not do. Not even sure if the Party wants students to learn debate. I will agree that they are pleased when the students appear pleased. |
Why? Chinese administrations want us to be different from the Chinese teachers. Otherwise we would all be teaching oral English.
As for debate, it was a business ethics class for CFA. I use what works. |
I am not convinced. I think some are forward thinking and realize the value. I think others see it more as just marketing. I think others see the Chinese educational way as THEE way.
In my first A-level school, I would get feedback from the school that I wasn't teaching vocabulary by rote nor yelling at the students. I would always respond that they would need to talk to the main office and that would be the end of it. Second year it got worse as the new head Chinese teacher would complain about everything. Home office was baffled as they knew me and knew what I did. Turned out this teacher had a friend who had opened a local IELTS cram school and was trying to destroy the program. Next year went out of her way to recruit no new students. Haha
Second school was more along the lines of what you experienced. Yet I remain convinced fortunate is the teacher who walks into such. Best! |
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rogerwilco
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I believe that some Chinese schools actually want bad foreign teachers.
They want the bad foreign teachers so they can point to themselves as "the best", and use the bad ones as an example of "all foreign teachers being inferior".
Your Maolage may vary, of course.....  |
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LarssonCrew
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Majority of the Chinese teachers I've seen have been horrendous.
English teachers explaining everything in Chinese, have students speak a sentence in Chinese and drop an English word in, generally just putting up a PPT of the textbook and reading through it, and generally haven't terrible accents.
In my international school the maths teachers just print endless pages, it's like they moved their public teaching philosophy across. Find a textbook which has pages and pages of example questions, and then just print and give to students.
I wonder if the government ever shows them the new educational thinking, and that things have changed since the teachers themselves went to school. |
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