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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:05 am Post subject: Jobs for those over 60 |
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Could anyone please tell us which countries are okay about hiring teachers approaching 60 years old who would like to kind of semi-retire in that country and go on working as long as they were physically/mentally able? |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Most of South America, if you have a pension or other investments to supplement. It wouldn't be realistic to want to live solely on what you could earn if you were semi-retired. |
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Jobs for those over 60 |
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water rat wrote: |
Could anyone please tell us which countries are okay about hiring teachers approaching 60 years old who would like to kind of semi-retire in that country and go on working as long as they were physically/mentally able? |
It depends a bit on your nationality and academic credentials.
If you have a PhD you can basically work till you die (with proper visas).
IFf you are American then the US protectorates in the pacific are an option (Micronesia, etc). The visa isn't an issue and there is no age restriction.
If you are British then the EU is an option until Brexit (if and when it may occur).
As mentioned above, central or south America are an option for semi-retirement using EFL to supplement your retirement income.
Without a PhD eastern Asia is not really an option for legal work after age 60. Most countries restrict work related visas / work permit at ages 55-65.
Countries like Thailand and the Philippines do however have "retirement" visas and working on-line as an EFL teacher can be an option if you have another class of visa. Substantial "deposits" (proof of funds) are required to get these visas.
One exception to the over 60 issue is to be on the ground in Cambodia. Buy a business visa and work as a teacher. Currently there are no restrictions on age or academic background but that could change in a heartbeat if something hits the news (like CPN in Korea in 2006) and it becomes a political issue.
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angeles
Joined: 08 Feb 2014 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hi suphanburi
Thanks for the information you posted above.
Would it be possible to expand on the following point you made:
"If you have a PhD you can basically work till you die (with proper visas)".
Really appreciate it.
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:21 am Post subject: |
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angeles wrote: |
Hi suphanburi
Thanks for the information you posted above.
Would it be possible to expand on the following point you made:
"If you have a PhD you can basically work till you die (with proper visas)".
Really appreciate it.
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Many universities in East Asia are opening/have opened up "International Programs" and they need PhD lecturers. Depending on your field of study and area of expertise this can be an option.
Work is between 9-15 class hours per week (full time), 3-4 office hours per week, research & publication are not required (but can be an option with reduced class loads).
While China currently restricts PhDs to age 65 there are no such restrictions in most of the rest of East Asia for PhD holders working as university lecturers on an annual, contractual basis. (I am in this category).
You didn't say where your passport is from so be aware that SOME countries have visa restrictions based on your nationality. Lots of countries will not allow citizens from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, or failed states / states at war. They often make it very difficult for Middle Eastern / Asia minor or sub-Saharan African countries nationals to get visas as well.
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rioux
Joined: 26 Apr 2012 Posts: 880
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Hi suphanburi,
From what I have been reading the age limit in China (circumstances can vary) is 60 years old.
This is the first I read that it is 65 if one has a PhD. Is there a source that can verify this, because this is useful information.
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Rioux,
Here in Jiangsu province, China, the age limit dropped from 65 to 60 in the past couple years. I just turned 70 but have been here at the same university for more than 8 years. Luckily, I have been extended for the past several years but the provincial authorities have finally caught up with me so this will be my last year. |
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AbeCross
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 191
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:20 am Post subject: Online too? |
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Age discrimination in brick-and-mortar institutions is rampant in most of Asia. Is this true for online as well? (Most online students are Asian, I believe.) |
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Online too? |
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AbeCross wrote: |
Age discrimination in brick-and-mortar institutions is rampant in most of Asia. Is this true for online as well? (Most online students are Asian, I believe.) |
In my experience, NO.
I am over 60, work part time online and am always fully booked.
On line tutors, like any other tutors (as compared to classroom teachers) are more about building the relationship between you, the parent and the student. |
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 am Post subject: |
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You might want to look into teaching in Laos. I have one friend/former colleague who is around 70+ who is still there. He's a science teacher though, so he's kind of in demand.
There are a number of 'international' schools there. Also, there is one true international school (IB) in Vientiane (VIS), but they may also have a cut-off age. |
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hobartwells
Joined: 29 Jun 2017 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Saudi on working visit visas. Also, it seems that Taiwan should be OK. They don't pay much, though. |
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mbkirova
Joined: 15 Jan 2014 Posts: 7 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:16 am Post subject: 67 and still getting interviews |
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This age thing and restrictions is such a common topic that I'd like to put in my personal experience so far, starting from mid Jan 2020. It *really* depends on the school, though many countries (like China) are pretty unbendable. Nonetheless, I was offered lower paid university jobs there up until 64, they just paid very little. This year I've had positive responses from both VN and Cambodia, again not the most highly paid jobs (I'm looking at secondary schools, not language schools) but there is plenty of retirement potential in both. Latin America has no age limits, but again you are not likely to be offered the best paying positions unless you can tick all the boxes most newly qualified youngsters do. But retirement potential? Of course! Me, I'm looking for quality of life above all, but jobs must pay enough to live on with at least some small savings potential. I hope over this last year you found what you are looking for. |
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Pinkpiglet
Joined: 31 May 2017 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I'm thinking after all this Corona thing blows over demand is going to exceed supply in many S E Asian countries and they will lower the 60 year old ban thing. |
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mbkirova
Joined: 15 Jan 2014 Posts: 7 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:04 am Post subject: watch this space |
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I think you are entirely correct that this great muddle will put pressure on Chinese authorities to change the age laws. I see an extraordinary number of openings in China right now that they may have trouble finding teachers for. |
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nimadecaomei
Joined: 22 Sep 2016 Posts: 605
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Seems Korea, Japan and now the Middle East will be seeing this, too. It is hard to say though, as economies are going to tank and the money for teachers might simply not exist. |
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