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Western Men and Asian Women - healthy discussion
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agent Mulder,

wrap it up please.
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
Agent Mulder,

wrap it up please.


Err.. the last post was a joke, as indicated by the use of the Happy and Winking icons.

Lighten up Paul.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul H

This post invited comment upon 'Western men and Asian women' as I recall.

Some people, the Agent and me included, have posted useful info in regard to our opinions as to why we have found Asian women to be attractive. This shared info might be of interest to both western men and women who read this board (and, of course any Japanese readers). It is insightful , informative and with 'substance'.

This thread has degenerated due to the fact that some 'non-asian' women have focussed on 'exceptions to the rule' and have displayed, over and over again, an unattractive (and franky laughable) over-defensiveness to some imaginary 'attack' upon them. The more I read, the more those 'asian' women just keep looking more and more attractive to me............

Lock the thread if you want, mate, we can look back and read some useful info (generally from the blokes) and have a laugh at some of the other posts.
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Capergirl



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Paul H,

Thank you for your response. However, it seems that the problem is that only if someone complains, a thread is removed. So I guess I should have written to you about the dozen or so threads that were highly offensive to me over the past year, not to mention countless posts. (As I said, take a look at what Jeddahteacher posts and links to...you will find a lot of 'hateful' and 'inflammatory' material). Ironically, I posted a sarcastic thread - a parody of other threads saying derogatory things about Western women - and it gets yanked within minutes of being posted. Then I posted a question to you, the moderators, about this double standard and it was yanked as well. Nothing in that post was offensive. It was merely a question.

I have been a member of this forum for a year and a half. I post regularly (take a look at the number under my name). I'm hardly a troll. I don't intentionally flame others. What I do is respond to injustices and stereotypes from others on the forum. Why should people be allowed to use a hate word like feminazi? Do you have any idea how stinging that word is to the Western ladies on this forum???? How about this: the next time someone uses the term 'feminazi', I will send you a PM and you can remove it. Sound good? It sounds great to me.

Thanks for your time.

Heather a.k.a. Capergirl
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Mike L.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank you for your response. However, it seems that the problem is that only if someone complains, a thread is removed. So I guess I should have written to you about the dozen or so threads that were highly offensive to me over the past year, not to mention countless posts.


I don't think many of us would like the sort of environment with threads being removed just because someone disagreess with some of the contents, points of view, terms used by others etc etc etc ...

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Why should people be allowed to use a hate word like feminazi? Do you have any idea how stinging that word is to the Western ladies on this forum???? How about this: the next time someone uses the term 'feminazi', I will send you a PM and you can remove it. Sound good? It sounds great to me.


If you don't like the word so much why don't you PM the poster and explain why, counter it on the thread or better yet start your own thread on the topic and take it the members of this forum?
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chi-chi-



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.
To the ladies who are talking about why some types of posts are allowed and not others, well, the board obviously has a slant in a particular direction. Mad What else can you expect from a site based in LA? Honestly I wish that there was a better online resource for teaching EFL, but unfortunately there isn't. It would be nice to read about useful textbooks more than getting laid, but I constantly have to remind myself that the world is full of grown up children. **Although there are people talking about working together to collaborate on a better, more professional EFL site** Wink
As far as what the Western men like, who cares? Gets the bad ones out of the (mostly) Canadian gene pool, in my opinion. And you Canadian girls (who are only rivaled by Koreans as far as the crap you have to put up with, IMHO) deserve better anyway. (Just my opinion.)
So anyway, you guys had sex again, we don't really care, and we don't care what you like or don't like. I don't know about the rest of the ladies on here, but I'm sure that they'd be in agreement that they're not looking to date you anyway, so who cares?
My attitude toward the board is not angry, it is disappointed (at the racism and stereotyping) followed by who cares?
Just makes me glad that I am no longer a native of Korea, California, or Canada (I have lived in the first two, and pretty sure that I wouldn't want the third.)
Oh, let me add New York to that list, as I had a professor from there who sounds a lot like you guys. Down with the man, down with whitey, sort of thing, except in you guys case, it's down with the woman, down with whitey. It's pretty apparent that that attitude comes from Ultra PC conditioning and self-hate (No, not the dating outside of your race, but the contempt you have towards women of your same race, since you can't hate yourselves, you hate the white women instead.)
Black people have this too. There are blacks who hate on other blacks, etc, etc.
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Seth



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the deal with asian women and foreign males;

asian women, being unfamiliar with the culture, habits and language of said male, can't readily distinguish between smarmy, mentally arrested beer louts and the truly nice guys. guys who would be ignored, or perhaps ridiculed, in their home country get treated like stars in most asian countries. suddenly beautiful women are paying attention to them...sometimes even smiling and talking to them. it's a heavy intoxicant, to be sure.

western women, on the other hand, are all too familiar with their male counterparts and certainly don't treat them like rock stars. to a western male, a western woman symbolizes a shred of reality that flies in the face of their new 'don juan' fantasy world. they're like a party pooper.

basically, men get used to the attention from beautiful women in an asian country. if and when they go home, they're just another random loser.
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chi-chi-



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That can work in reverse, too.
If you are an attractive, feminine Western woman who goes back to her own country from Asia (where we ALL know how Western women are treated in Asia), it has the potential to be a heavy intoxicant also, unless you have a level head.
I mean going from a place where men won't even speak to you (like they need a male interpreter) to a place where men will wait for several minutes to hold open a door for you. (That being just one example). It's wonderful reverse culture shock, BUT it's always good to have a level head and humility, regardless of who you are or where you are. It's best not to let things go to your head.
I know many successful people, and many people who are not so successful. The successful people, by and large, are people who are always kind to others, and don't let things go to their head. They are practical about their success but do not brag about it.
Case in point: whenever you see a "Beemer" in your own country, you can be assured (90% assurance) that the person is middle class.
The truly, successful rich wear old clothes and do not flaunt their wealth.
The same goes for other areas in life....be kind to others and don't get a big head...getting over-confident can lead to bad grades, bad relationships, bad money problems, and a whole other host of social ills.
There is this 80's movie where a cheerleader owes a "geeky" guy a favor....and he says that he must be able to follow her around, and pretend like they're dating. Toward the end of the movie, the guy gets absolutely out of control with his new-found popularity and power. He loses out in the end. I really wish I could remember the name of this movie. It reminds me a lot of this here.
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chi

For someone who "doesn't care", you sure type a lot. Shame it usually doesn't make sense. Where is all this info you see posted about sex? (in your head, methinks). The men's posts have not made any reference to this at all, just to 'attraction'.

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Just makes me glad that I am no longer a native of Korea, California, or Canada (I have lived in the first two, and pretty sure that I wouldn't want the third.)


?? May I be so bold as to ask what PLANET you come from........?! Confused C'mon Chi-chi, that quote doesn't even make sense!! Stop making me laugh.
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chixdiggit



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Said movie is called Can't Buy Me Love. However, for the life of me I cannot pick any sense out of Chi-chi's posts. I am not flaming her either, every post conflicts a previous one. Are you messing with us Chi-chi?
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Birdog3344



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why should people be allowed to use a hate word like feminazi? Do you have any idea how stinging that word is to the Western ladies on this forum????


Not to mention those of Jewish decent.
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chi-chi-



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Location: In la-la land

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: I miss those tacos! So damn cute....*lol* Reply with quote

I do type a lot (50 wpm allows much typing in a lil' bit o time) I am messing with ya'lls heads (about time you figured it out....it's fun Wink )
and ya'll can figure out whether I'm from a different planet or not. (It's not like it hasn't been said before.)
No nobody can make sense of my posts, I'm not like ya'll, and ya'll ain't like me. Yah!
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dah dah dah dah du duh duh
nananananananana
He's a happy boy
-happy dog-
what a happy boy
-happy boy-
ain't it great when things a goin your way-hey hey
nananana na nana na
HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA
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The guy who sang that song came from an era when men still had testeosterone

Mi hao, jjang mao! Le petit neku esta muy loco.
When the lady with dentures talked dirty to my Japanese boss in French, I understood it. Every word................Juste parce que vous parlez le Fran�ais ne vous rend pas fut�...........Canadien babu
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John Pierre �tait une merveille diklesse
Mais pens� il �tait un superstar
Car il est all� � la barre, il a commenc� � consid�rer
Ce qu'il �tait celui a mal tourn�...

It's a poem....Ok, ok, it rhymes in ENGLISH....does that still count?
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Royalty hates to date royalty
Haven't you heard the stories?
You should read about the old glories
Stories from the days of old....


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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seth is maybe too harsh on the guys who are perceived to be looked-over types in the home towns.

But there is some truth to the quiet guy getting the girl in Japan. I know two lovely men in their late 30s, one an American who met his wife in Ehime-ken, and another long-time Canadian friend who married two years ago to a wonderful gal in Kanagawa. Both are really interesting, well-travelled, curious guys who are more Edward Norton than Brad Pitt. They both found loving, wonderful energetic women who can keep up with them and their huge intellects.

By the way, I like Ed Norton better than Bra-pi, too, now that I think of it.

Chi-Chi, can I suggest you read over your posts carefully before you hit the submit button? What are you talking about half the time? I do like reading you, but...

King kapipi, I believe Chi-Chi was referring to an earlier post to a pop-cultural reference when she mentioned sex.
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chi-chi-



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mais oui, gracias Liz.
Jeder ist in ihrer eigenen speziellen Weise sch�n
A guy can have intellect, but he better have a sexy package to back it up.
I'm just messing with ya'll....g'day Laughing
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king kakipi



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chi-chi

Why do you post?
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