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Memoirs of a Geisha..the movie..

 
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blue jay



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Memoirs of a Geisha..the movie.. Reply with quote

The movie Memoirs of a Geisha starts filming this fall in Japan with mainly Chinese actresses and a few Japanese actors & actresses:

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1287349,00.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397535/
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=4738

Do you think the casting will be controversial in Japan?
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many Japanese actresses can you think of that speak English?
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blue jay



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true..how many are there? I'm curious about that myself. I watched many Japanese TV dramas and I often wondered if any of those Japanese actors or actresses could speak English, would they act in Hollywood movies? Does anyone know if any of them do?
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuki Kudoh Is the only one I have seen in a Hollywood movie and
Baisho Chieko (the sister in the Tora-san movies) was in an independent movie set in the US a few years ago.

There was another Japanese-American actress called Morita Tomita (?) but I think she was more American thand Japanese.

I believe Fujiwara Norika speaks some English as well but not perfectly.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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skarp



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all about box office marketability, innit?

There are no big name Japanese stars on the Hollywood scene.

Speilberg is hardly gonna be a stickler for using Japanese actors even when it's obvious to anyone who's been in Asia that the Chinese will look wrong, act wrong and just be wrong. He's not the most careful film maker after all.

The film will be a big hit, thanks to the talents of the cast, the quality of the book and the timeless appeal of the Geisha mystique. Speilberg's good at spotting a hit and telling the story in a manner that's simple to understand.

Is memoirs of a Geisha an important book in Japan?

Was there much controversy about The Last Samurai being basically ludicrous?

I read the Memoirs of a Geisha. It felt authentic, though I'm not sure it was
I'll see the film (unlike the Last Samurai). I hope it makes Zhang Zi yi and her co-stars heaps of cash....

I predict the average Japanese man or woman will not give a hoot. They're used to their culture and history being hacked about and served up for the amusement of foreigners....

Thanks to OP for posting the news.

Skarp[/i]
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Ailian



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
How many Japanese actresses can you think of that speak English?

Is speaking English truly necessary? I know that many actors in movies performing roles not their native language have been able to speak in X language through both memorization and speech coaches. (To use the example of my previously mentioned Hirosue Ryoko, she had memorized her lines phonetically in Wasabi, something I know is not a first for actresses.) It's more about fame (and Westerners' inability to tell the difference between Asians) than anything.
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Lovechild



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they should only have Japanese playing the part of Japanese. It remind me of the old western movie when Hollyweed would have white people to play the part of Indians. Well once again, Hollywood is being prejudice by hiring Chinese to be Japanese characters. Probably the real reason for this outrages discrimination is because Chinese will work for less money. I am so offended by this and so I will not see the movie, even though, I loved the book.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the book was entertaining, but I think it was highly fictionalized.
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skarp



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well - it's a novel, innit?

It claims to be based on a geisha's recollections as far as daily routine and lifestyle goes, and there is a credit to that effect.

But obviously it's a work of fiction.
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Big Chris



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly if they are going to turn one of the greatest books of the last half of the 20th Century into a movie, ONLY Noriko Fujiwara could possibly play Hatsumomo. She is a damn good English speaker to boot so it could be done.
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nawlinsgurl



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am finishing up the book right now and I must say it is a great piece of literature...but is any of it true???
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blue jay



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nawlinsgurl:

Memoirs of a Geisha is a work of fiction. If you want read some non-fiction books about geishas read:

Geisha, A Life by Mineko Iwasaki

http://mostlyfiction.com/excerpts/geisha.htm

or

Geisha, The secret history of a vanshing world by Lesley Downer

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?ath=Lesley+Downer

Hope you don't get hit too hard by Hurricane Ivan!!

blue jay

Ps. Here's a site about Geisha book reviews: http://www.immortalgeisha.com/ig/book_review_01.cfm?id=5
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Dr.J



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read this book a few months ago.

It's not true, obviously, but the historical world is not grossly inaccurate.

I was a bit surprised when they chose a Chinese actress, especially because nowadays people are getting more picky about 'authentic' storylines.

But it's not such a big deal. If a French person was chosen to play a British person in a film about Sherlock Holmes made by an asian film company...I mean the actor isn't going to be stuffing garlic in his face and playing the accordion at every free moment.

It's an actor's job to be someone else.
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