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Why do you Americans want to be in Europe so much???
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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:59 am    Post subject: Why do you Americans want to be in Europe so much??? Reply with quote

Question Question Question

I wasn�t always a teacher you know, I once had a proper job jet-setting and going to meetings and stuff. It was during one such drinking session that I visited some long-distant relatives in Los Angeles. Our conversation went something like this:

Hod: Hello
Uncle Hod III: Excuse me?
Hod: I�m Hod.
Uncle Hod III: Oh hey Hoddle (it�s always the full name, isn�t it!). Come in and have an Irish whisk(e)y.
Hod: But it�s only 4 o�clock in the afternoon!
Uncle Hod II: Excuse me?

Minutes later (felt like a decade)�

Uncle Hod III: Hoddle, can I ask you a question?
Hod: By all means, if I can understand you.
Uncle Hod III: What�s your nationality?
Hod: I dunno. English I guess.
Uncle Hod III: Me and Hodette. We�re Irish Americans
Hod: Excuse me?

Some time before the last ice age, Hodd the Irish caveman (painter decorator), ended up in America, couldn�t control himself and reproduced. Generations later, on a sunny January teatime in LA, Uncle Hod III (as Irish as an igloo) made this hilarious claim. It was partly the whisky, but doesn�t hide the fact that he, like most Americans, believes they have roots elsewhere.

To you Americans I ask only this: Why do you love Europe so much? I know Americans working in dustbowls like Morocco, or in some former communist vodka factory masquerading as a country, just so they can be oh so close to that Holy Grail, the Mecca - Europe.

If that�s not enough, some of you go one step further! You actually pluck up courage to get on a boat to Europe itself. There you fill in enough paperwork to destroy Brazil and go to work for 10 Euros an hour! This is understandable for Vietnamese boat people, but you lot come from the Land of Freedom.

Please explain.

Didn�t we all come from Adam and Eve anyway? You wouldn�t catch me wanting to grow a beard and teach naked in some garden in Africa.

Have you seen my school?:

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leeroy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

er..

I've wondered about this "Irish-American", "Italian-American" thing too. Does this actually translate into Americans wanting to live in Europe though? I had always interpreted this more as "remembering your roots" in some way. I imagine that more Europeans want to live in America than the other way around.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't people say they are Irish-American in order to get a legal high paying EFL job in Europe?
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Snoopy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the answer is called civilisation.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leeroy wrote:
Shocked

er..

I've wondered about this "Irish-American", "Italian-American" thing too. Does this actually translate into Americans wanting to live in Europe though? I had always interpreted this more as "remembering your roots" in some way. I imagine that more Europeans want to live in America than the other way around.


Huh?
Since when do Europeans wish to emigrate to the U.S.A.?
Does Usakhistan have a well-developed transport infrastructure worthy of a first-world nation???
Does it have genuine food that's not prefixed with "fast"?

Does it have a legal system that actually puts the law at the service of the weak?

Does it have jobs that pay you more than you need to survive anyway?

Can you live in Usakhistan if your features cause you to stand out as a Middle-Easterner?

Do they speak any languages other than American in Usakhistan?

Is life in Usakhistan culturally stimulating?

How do they protect Mother Nature in that funny country?

Sightseeing - I am all for it, and will be one of the next to go there; living there? Thanks, but no thanks!
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's any consolation, I don't want to go to Europe. I can't stand the place. Cool But then I'm not American...
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it perhaps be because Europe has a culture, indeed, numerous wholly distinct cultures?
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leeroy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where this thread is going... Wink
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Will.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Leeroy,
Do you think we should try and disrupt the direction it takes?
Let's all start validating our British/Canadian/ Australian/Australian/New Zealand/South African/Irish/Scottish/Welsh/Manx/New Caledonian etc ancestry.

Well then boys and girls; are you sitting comfortably? then I'll begin...

I am a 50/50 NI&Eng which makes mw 100% Brit but one parent was from NI so for all of youse out there who understand this I am 50/50 Brit. From Irish immigrant extraction, so I am calling this Irish British and specifically Northern Irish/British.
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leeroy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know I am 100% English. Boring, I know...

For me, my ethnicity does not affect my identity a great deal - and I think it's sad when I see cases where that does happen.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: o Reply with quote

Gosh, I leave you alone for five minutes�

My original words weren�t knocking Americans. I�d like to include Canadians too.

I�m just interested in the way the North American mind thinks. Do you really believe you have roots in places like Germany? What about those who�ve gone on to work in Germany, Spain or similar places where slavery has been reintroduced, now known as TEFL. Do your distant relatives welcome you back to the fatherland with open arms? No.
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Sekhmet



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just curious... What about all the people who don't claim to have "roots" in these countries, but just an "interest"?? Does that make them wannabe Europeans too??
Not that I'm an American - British (kinda) and proud of it most of the time!!! But just because I'm living in Egypt, doesn't mean I want to become Egyptian, or even have any familial connection to the place. I just like it. Very Happy
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JosephP



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent many years toiling away in the TEFL mines of Asia. Even in Hawaii and New Zealand almost all of my students were East Asians.
I've never been to Europe. Is it nice?
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mesmerod



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am american and i dont want to be in europe.
south america is much better and the people are friendly
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Hod



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Sekhmet wrote:
I'm just curious... What about all the people who don't claim to have "roots" in these countries, but just an "interest"?? Does that make them wannabe Europeans too??


I didn�t think of that, and for the sake of this thread I say YES!

I�ve seen Americans wax lyrical about sausages in Germany for christ�s sake! A Canadian in my current dustbowl can�t pop an olive in his mouth without declaring it to be the tastiest snack on god�s earth. It�s an olive, a small green tasteless thing I scream throwing my arms up in despair � I�d rather throw away the olives and eat the plastic dish.

You�re soooooooo easily pleased.
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