| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Ludwig
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
Posts: 1096
Location: 22� 20' N, 114� 11' E
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Aramas
Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Posts: 874
Location: Slightly left of Centre
|
 Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| We deserve much worse. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mcNug
Joined: 12 Jun 2003
Posts: 83
Location: HK
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
| More blood on John Howard's hands |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
El Llama
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 70
Location: The Big Durian
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| We deserve much worse. |
Who exactly makes up this "we" who deserved to be bombed? War criminals? Anyone who voted for the incumbent prime ministers / presidents who rule western countries? Anyone white? Anyone western?
None of the 9 people killed or 190+ injured fall into any of these categories as they are all Indonesian. Indonesian security guards, Indonesian gardeners, Indonesian workers on their way to their offices. Ordinary Indonesian people are the ones who suffered. Did they "deserve" it? But really, does anyone "deserve" to be bombed, whether they live in Indonesia, Afghanistan, the US, UK or Australia? Of course not. That it happens is a sad fact of the world we live in, but is not justified. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leeroy
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Posts: 777
Location: London UK
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| What is this bizarre need to blame everything on western governments and politicians? How about a little perspective! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mjed9
Joined: 25 Oct 2003
Posts: 242
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
| leeroy wrote: |
| How about a little perspective! |
Go on then ... enlighten me! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leeroy
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Posts: 777
Location: London UK
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
Howard, Bush and Blair were not the ones driving a car packed full of explosives up to the Australian embassy.
The enemy here is Islamic terrorism. This doesn't mean we have to passively accept everything that our governments throw at us - but at the same time let's not forget that Bush and Blair are not the ones crying out...
| http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.012 wrote: |
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. |
That's what I meant by perspective |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
stillnosheep
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 2068
Location: eslcafe
|
| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| leeroy wrote: |
The enemy here is Islamic terrorism.
| http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.012 wrote: |
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. |
|
Err, leeroy, I hate to diswhatever you but that quote sounds suspiciosly like the other so many quotes from the parts of the Old Testament that are held sacred not only by the believers in Christianity and Judaeism, but also Islam.
You seem to be conflating terrorism with fundamentalism. Terrorism is a method, not an ideology or, God forbid, a religion.
Maybe if 'our' fundamentalists ceased to direct so much weaponry at nations who aren't doing 'our' bidding 'we' wouldn't find ourselves creating the very conditions in which such a backlash becomes inevitable.
An eye for an eye doesn't make much sense anymore. Nor does directing one's people to massacre the enemy and ensure that not one man, woman or child survive. We are not semi-nomadic sheep-herders fighting for grazing rights. Old Testament strictures are not so much irrelevant, as extremely dangerous.
Here endeth today's lesson.
sns
Last edited by stillnosheep on Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:59 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
