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How long are you in the game for?
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How long are you planning to spend in the world of TEFL?
Just a couple of years as a break from life at home.
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Until I find a wife/husband of my favourite ethnicity.
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Until I've paid off my student loans.
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Until I find my passport and can get back home!
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
5-10 years.
24%
 24%  [ 8 ]
This is my career. I'll be in it until I retire, die, or go insane.
57%
 57%  [ 19 ]
Um, other.
9%
 9%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 33

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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 15343

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 6:22 am    Post subject: sticking it out Reply with quote

Well you get used to it. Some people go back "home" wherever that is and do something else, unrelated to teaching.

I got hooked on being a starnger in a strange land. Now in my late fifties with dependants it is too late to do anything else. And because I need a reasonable income my choice of countries is limited.

There are few jobs back home in the UKofGB&NI, and most of them are seasonal, temporary or part-time.
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richard ame



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 319
Location: Republic of Turkey

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 7:26 am    Post subject: tTis beautiful game Reply with quote

Hi fellow players
I have asked myself this same question on more than one occassion and I keep coming up with the same answer,there is no alternative now for this life and the country of my choice looks to be a permanant one .In the short time I have done this kind of work the rewards I have recieved are than I could have realised back home in the U.K,every time I go back there for a short visit I suffer culture shock I can't wait to get back here I know this is not normal but this is the reality of a life time T.E.F.L worker I dropped the teacher label because I think this game we play is a lot more than what we do in the class room,it offers so much more than whats gone before the challenge is always there ,thats why I stay and I think thats why most of us will too .
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 8:45 am    Post subject: staying on Reply with quote

Like Richard I cannot handle things back home in the horrors of the (dis)United Kingdom. I will stay with TEFL - either with the nice money, like in the M.E., or with the poverty in other places.

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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Posts: 2129
Location: 中国

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 9:15 am    Post subject: here today, gone tomorrow Reply with quote

Howdy scot47:

You raised an interesting point. Wealth vs. Poverty seems to be an underlying reality in EFL.

Funny that the most exciting, personally rewarding and interesting EFL positions for me have always been in the countries where the salaries were the lowest.

With that reality in mind, I've sort of adopted a rotating cycle of poverty-wealth-poverty-wealth ... in which I spend a couple of years, for example, in Japan or Korea and save 10K, then move back to a less developed country (like Russia) ... where the money I saved keeps me happy.

Sort of an EFL roller-coaster, if you get my drift?

For example: I'm now just beginning my third year in Russia and still haven't spent all the money I had saved in Korea 3 years ago. One day when the well runs dry, I'll head back to Japan or Korea ... or maybe even drop in at the scot47 Chateau for some backpacker behaviour modification therapy. Inshallah! Very Happy

Best wishes,
kenT
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
Posts: 701
Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 9:26 am    Post subject: how long Reply with quote

Well I know someone who digs tunnels and a mate of mine is ex army and knows what he's doing with mercury switches..so as soon as we've got a fail safe plan we're expanding into bank hiests.Bottom line.........do TEFL for a year or maybe two because you are trapped after that.You'll end up in the Middle East with all the other cynics,(like myself).Currently there are well paid jobs in Yemen (unsafe), Guinea (malarial),Libya (dictatorship),Qatar (small town) and Saudi ( aka the land of the free). Catch my drift?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 4:32 pm    Post subject: on the game Reply with quote

"in the game" maybe being "on the game" would be more profitable ?

(Non-brits may require a reference book to ascertain colloquial meaning here.)
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Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at your age Hamish
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Capergirl



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Posts: 1232
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one of the ones for whom teaching ESL/EFL is a career. I initially took an EFL position in South Korea because I wanted to travel a bit and also to find out if teaching was for me. Very quickly, I discovered my niche, and now I couldn't imagine doing anything else. I am currently teaching ESL in Canada and I'm hoping to head to Europe in the near future.

A good friend of mine often says, "Do what you love and you will never work a day in your life." I absolutely agree. The buck stops here for me. Smile
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Wolf



Joined: 10 May 2003
Posts: 1245
Location: Middle Earth

PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2003 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe it. Capegirl as in Cape Breton girl? Another Bluenoser teaching EFL?! I thought I was the only one! At least, when I told people that I was going to Japan 4 years ago, everyone looked at me as if I told them that I was going to a fairy land. At that time, I was paying off a student loan (those degree things don't come cheap anymore).

Now I've started a correspondance MA in TEFL (yeah, I know "mail order", but I don't have to go back, and I can actually afford it this way). I'll be in EFL as long as I can. Sure, I had to learn how to teach The Hard Way (copyright of the Japanese company whose name means in Spanish "It doesn't go.") But through all the rough times, there has been one constant: I love the work. I love watching my students progress. I love seeing them get that promotion cuz they got a high enough TOEIC score. I'm an addict. Oh, and of course I love having had the opportunity to live in various parts of east Asia. It has kept me going though my darkest days.

PS Capegirl, could you send me some Tim Horton's? Address is

Wolf
The other EFL Bluenoser
Rural China,
Planet Earth (sort of but that's another thread.)
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Capergirl



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wolf Smile
Yep, Cape Breton girl...that's me! I know how much you must be missing that Tim's coffee...that's the one thing I *always* take with me when I go overseas! Wink
How's life in China treatin' ya? Smile
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Shonai Ben



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
Posts: 617

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Capergirl:
How's the weather in N.S.?Are you enjoying the Victoria Day weekend?
Cheers. Cool
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Capergirl



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ben Smile

The weather has been gorgeous all weekend...hitting the 20C mark (finally!) and it's supposed to continue through the week. I actually have a four-day weekend because I have Tuesdays off. Wink

Happy Victoria Day, my Canadian friends! Very Happy
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