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Beware of alcoholics and International TESOL
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windward



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:32 am    Post subject: Beware of alcoholics and International TESOL Reply with quote

Professionalism is definately something one should consider when making the decision to become an ESL teacher. However, beware of those who don't practice what they preach! Just a quick warning to anyone thinking of taking the International TESOL program: be careful what you are getting into. Don't get me wrong, the course is great and you will learn a great deal from it. However, beware of the practice teaching program that they offer. I took it while it was still free of charge, and found it to be a joke. Now, they are offering it at an extra cost, and I guarantee you the format hasn't changed. The instructors/owners are both alcholics and spend most of their time preaching about extending professionalism to your personal life. In my opinion, it is difficult to practice professionalism when you're always drunk! Although I did get a lot out of the program, I didn't exactly learn what I was expecting to learn. Anyone wanting further information or more details, don't hesitate to post and I will do my best to answer any questions you might have. Cool
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of alcoholics and International TESOL Reply with quote

windward wrote:
In my opinion, it is difficult to practice professionalism when you're always drunk!


What about being a professional drunk?
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Will.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

every one i ever met professed to not being drunk
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Snoopy



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not as thunk as drinkle peep I am.
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biffinbridge



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: drinking Reply with quote

"Teaching is the best cure for a hangover".Yeah right.Pass me another glass of 'Old Monk' Damo.
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Beware of alcoholics and International TESOL Reply with quote

windward wrote:
Professionalism is definately something one should consider when making the decision to become an ESL teacher.

Learning to spell is definitely important, too, mind you.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludwig,

I love that quote. Was having dinner and tried desperately to remember the first part and had to dig through History to find it. Even now I can't remember but I will look again and eventually learn it. From Brothers Karmazov?
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vre



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you reckon that there must be a high percentage of alcoholics, or borderline ones in TEFL?

hic Embarassed
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Sweetsee', thanks, it is from Crime and Punishment.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludwig, what's up bro? You going soft?
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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you reckon that there must be a high percentage of alcoholics, or borderline ones in TEFL?


Oh yes. There seem to be quite a lot and I suspect that living and teaching in some countries actually encourages people to drink more. Laughing
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denise



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigmoid wrote:
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Do you reckon that there must be a high percentage of alcoholics, or borderline ones in TEFL?


Oh yes. There seem to be quite a lot and I suspect that living and teaching in some countries actually encourages people to drink more. Laughing


I confess that after my last class today (and because of my last class today!) the first thing I did upon returning home was pop open a can of chu-hai (a yummy girlie drink). My kids are darn sweet and I like them all, but sometimes... geez louise!!!

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windward



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:34 am    Post subject: I've been known to have a drink or two as well Reply with quote

What I meant was that people shouldn't teach their classes drunk. I have no issues with drinking after work! I've done that on numerous occasions. Being drunk in your class, however... (Sorry about the spelling mistake Confused
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: I've been known to have a drink or two as well Reply with quote

windward wrote:
What I meant was that people shouldn't teach their classes drunk.


So THAT's what I've been doing wrong all this time! Embarassed

MY GOD! I'm so stupid! Well, never mind, I wrote "do not teach drunk" on the back of my hand so hopefully I'll remember in the future, unless I forget next year when I take a bath and it comes off.

No wonder all those junior high schoolers keep staring at me sorta funny in class!
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: I've been known to have a drink or two as well Reply with quote

windward wrote:
What I meant was that people shouldn't teach their classes drunk.

I do not think drunk students should be allowed into class in the first place.
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