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chelski abu
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 Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:59 am Post subject: pay problem |
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hello there,
My former compnay, a small school in Tokyo, owe me 200,000 yen..This money was due in May and as yet they haven't given me a cent...they say they are broke.....my main probelm is that im not in japan anymore..can anyone offer any advice on things i could do to get my money?
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:10 am Post subject: Re: pay problem |
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| chelski abu wrote: |
hello there,
My former compnay, a small school in Tokyo, owe me 200,000 yen..This money was due in May and as yet they haven't given me a cent...they say they are broke.....my main probelm is that im not in japan anymore..can anyone offer any advice on things i could do to get my money?
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There is really not a lot you can do unless you are a member of a teachers union who will represent you in a labor dispute or will represent, or you can take your claim to the Labor standards office or the small claims court. That would mean you have to come to Japan first to contest the claim. There is no way you can make them pay if you are not there to kick up a fuss, and they dont have the money. You are essentially out of sight, out of mind.
Why may I ask, did you leave Japan without getting paid first, or is it a case of leaving the day after you quit your job? |
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chelski abu
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| no i worked a month in hand and they promised to pay me a month later..stupid me...what do you think are my chances of gettin it if i come to japan..how long would i be looking at?.. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| chelski abu wrote: |
| no i worked a month in hand and they promised to pay me a month later..stupid me...what do you think are my chances of gettin it if i come to japan..how long would i be looking at?.. |
If you threaten to call the police you could get it straight way. they probably have it and just dont want to give it to you and are stalling for time and thinking you wont press the issue. Its your money and you are entitled to it. They are not keeping their end of the bargain by not paying you on time and are in fact breaking the law.
Were there no signs of financial difficulty when you were there, such as late payments, asking to be paid in instalments?
these things such as bankruptcies dont usually happen over night. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| chelski abu wrote: |
| no i worked a month in hand and they promised to pay me a month later..stupid me...what do you think are my chances of gettin it if i come to japan..how long would i be looking at?.. |
I hope you kept copies of your pay slips and contract and bank records as you will need them to make a claim.
If you were paid under the table its your word against theirs and they can just say you didnt work there. |
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king kakipi
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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A PM confirms that this is the same company with which I had the same problem. I got my money (in the end). I don`t know which `dark forces` read this forum so I am unwilling to name the company (as, I guess, is the original poster) but below I reveal what was going to be my `next step` had I not got my hard-earned cash. Other (teachers) before have had the same problem, according to unprompted anecdotal evidence offered by the company`s students.
Foreign Residents` Advisory Centre (Tokyo Metro Gvt)
9:30~12:00 13:00~1600 (M-F)
Tel 03-5230-7744
THEY SPEAK ENGLISH ON THIS NUMBER (Apparently)
This was my first job, and `introduction` to Japan; it certainly puts you on a `downer`; luckily all employers since have been highly honest. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| king kakipi wrote: |
A PM confirms that this is the same company with which I had the same problem. I got my money (in the end). I don`t know which `dark forces` read this forum so I am unwilling to name the company (as, I guess, is the original poster) but below I reveal what was going to be my `next step` had I not got my hard-earned cash. Other (teachers) before have had the same problem, according to unprompted anecdotal evidence offered by the company`s students.
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I might add many schools think that a foreign teacher not knowing the language customs nor have the negotiating skills will have the nerve or deep pockets to take ones employer.
IF you are prepared to go over their heads to the relevant authorities, try not to do things by yourself but go to Labor Standards office, a union etc they will usually listen to reason when they realise what the legal implications might be.
You have to show them you mean business or they will walk all over you. |
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king kakipi
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I have done my best to help with that phone number.
Some snappy reponses like "why didn`t you join a union?" seem to forget that it is not at the top of your list when you arrive in Japan. Other little things like getting an alien card, mobile phone, bank account, dealing with drastic climate change/culture shock sometimes take over. Oh, and not understanding the language doesn`t ease one`s passage (nothing to do with piles, btw  ) either. Anyway I was briefly shafted (again no pun intended) and in the end (still no pun) scored a victory.
I sincerely hope that the OP gets the same result.
Anyway, I have had enough of the snappiness and am going to dedicate my future leisure time to learning more kanji!! I am sure you can all live without my `wisdom`!!
Good bye forum,and good luck to you all in Japan.
King Kakipi (now doing OK in the Land of the Risnng Sun  ) |
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: Re: pay problem |
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| chelski abu wrote: |
hello there,
My former compnay, a small school in Tokyo, owe me 200,000 yen..This money was due in May and as yet they haven't given me a cent...they say they are broke.....my main probelm is that im not in japan anymore..can anyone offer any advice on things i could do to get my money?
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Japanese labour law states that if an Employee gives three weeks notice, the employer must pay the employee on the last working day. However, you missed that opporunity.
If you want to take legal action you should call the labour board in Tokyo if company in Tokyo. However, I sorry you to have to say that most likely you not get any money. Most Japanese are good people, but some not so good. I sorry.
One question is the company in Tokyo or Saitama? I know someone suing small English school in Hanno, Saitama. If same school, he has lawyer. |
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chelski abu
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:51 am Post subject: |
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i got my cash!!
thanks for your help .. a couple of threatening phone calls and bobs your uncle it appeared in my bank account..right now im spending it in the south of india!
thanks again
live life love life
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Mike L.
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| Good work buddy! always play hardball when dealing with scumbags no matter where you are! It's all they understand! |
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