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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan
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 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:18 am Post subject: Re: in response to Iwantmyrightsnow |
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| whtaccordrcr wrote: |
| So if i like one of my students, as in, I would like to hang out with them some time. COuld i get away with asking her for her email or such. And they basically would not have a clue of me asking the student this. |
Say S-E-X-U-A-L H-A-R-A-S-S-M-E-N-T out loud to yourself 100 times to see how it sounds.
In case you dont know. Email addresses and telephone numbers are private information which you have no right to ask for in the normal course of your lesson, unless its related to work or your job, and there is a reason that you need it (unlikely for a NOVA teacher who doesnt need to contact students outside class). I have whole classes of young female students and on the profile sheet I give out some will give their email addresses. I will not contact them unless its related to work or their classes. Using email to contact students for private purposes can cross the line to sexual harassment and invasion of privacy, especially if it is not reciprocated or invited. If the school finds out you have asked for a students email address or phone number it could attract a stern warning and a second offence may mean firing you. Maybe Zzonk can tell you how this MM system works but i believe you may have 2 or 3 students tuned it at once, listening to everyone else so its pretty hard to keep secrets or get that sort of information in a lesson.
I dont know if you are at NOVA now but there is a bit of a rumor in some branches (but not all) that some of the foreign AAMs and supervisors make it their business to spy on underlings and new teachers, even outside work hours, and that is how they become managers and trainers, by dobbing in and ratting on other foreign teachers about liaisons etc . The guy in the next booth may be watching your lessons intently as well. |
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stillnosheep
Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 2068
Location: eslcafe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:42 am Post subject: Re: in response to Iwantmyrightsnow |
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| whtaccordrcr wrote: |
| So if i like one of my students, as in, I would like to hang out with them some time. COuld i get away with asking her for her email or such [...]Or a more subtle and less entrapment method. She liked me and offered me her email to contact her. Could i basically jot this info down and not worry about NOVA breathing down my back! |
Just when I thought Nova's anti-frat rules were entirely unjustified...
If you're being paid to teach, teach.
There are 50 million Japanese females out there. Why hit on your students. If a student is experienced enough to know what she wants and old enough for it not to be illegal it will not be beyond her ken to find you in the bar where you drink and approach you there. Otherwise you're spending too much time fantasising about your students when what they really need is somebody who will move heaven and earth to enable them to improve their english.
There are plenty of dating agencies if you are looking for a date. Or just go out to a bar for Crissakes. |
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The G-stringed Avenger
Joined: 13 Aug 2004
Posts: 746
Location: Lost in rhyme infinity
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| PAULH wrote: |
It doesnt make you a bad teacher but when you consider the student in front you probably has a 300,000 yen loan to NOVA for lessons and what she gets is a hungover foreigner with bloodshot eyes she can see she is not getting your full attention. Lack of professionalism i suppose youd say. I have dated students. Just dont be surprised if she tells the whole office about it.
Most teachers arent at NOVA for long they work there for a year or two and leave a slash and burn trail of broken hearts behind them. Some teachers even go back to their countries without telling their 'girlfriends' they are leaving. The student has to pick up the pieces that the guy didnt even have the courtesy to say goodbye.
These things have consequences and the reason NOVA acts like a nanny is you have young randy teachers who can not draw a line between their jobs and their private life. |
Broken hearts? C'mon, Japanese girls (and men, for that matter) couldn't give a stuff about love or any of that. They cheat like crazy, fall out of "love" (if that's what it was) with their spouses within a year or so of marriage and end up fixated on their jobs/friends/kids instead. Marriage is just something that you do and believe me, they get over a break-up at the drop of a hat. Different culture, waaaay different attitude towards love.
As for a student paying 300,000 yen for lessons - it's the old "unable to say no" syndrome - a smooth-talking staffer gives them false promises of how McDonalds - oh, sorry, NOVA - will turn them into fluent English speakers and the naive newbies who should know a bit better sign up and fork out the cash. Really, we're entertainers and our lessons will make no difference to the 90% of students who aren't truly committed, have no idea why they're learning English, and who assume they'll learn just by coming to a couple of classes a week, forgetting the massive amounts of hard work needed.
Oh, and as I said, the students I've dated came on to me, not the other way round. |
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