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DZNZ
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 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject: Dating scene for 31-35 year old white (American) males? |
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WorkingVaca
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: Here we go again... |
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| DZNZ wrote: |
| Any thoughts, experiences? |
Just that this thread will probably turn into yet another pseudo-intellecutal analysis of "feminazi" western b*tches compared to better-looking "Asian girls." |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Of course it could just as easily deteriorate into an equally pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-feminist, man-hating rant of the sort you are too often wont to post here.
True feminists are not man-haters and man-haters are not true feminists. I don't see anything in the original post that could have provoked your innapropriate response except that it is a caucasian man enquiring about the dating scene in Taiwan. Is there something wrong with that? Would you have responded the same way if it were a woman who posted the enquiry? Re-examine your prejudices. Don't stereotype or generalize. |
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Chairman Roberto
Joined: 04 Mar 2003
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Location: Taibei, Taiwan
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It's all in your chat-up, personal appearance, and general ability to make someone relax. Generally, things move a little slower here, though I've heard enough stories, fabricated or not, about one night stands stumbling out of Carnegies'. Those studmuffin gigolos Aristotle and Working Vacation probably know more about that scene.  
In Taipei, there shouldn't be a problem. Hell, I didn't have a problem in Mainland China, and if a joker like ME can get somewhere, and you can't, maybe it's time to reevaluate your game.
I suspect it's the same story around the world, save those place where they put the women under burquas and it's open season on foreigners.
good luck,
C.R.
(Fun fact: Didja know "C.R." stands for "Comfort Room" in the Philippines? That's a public toilet). |
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Wonder
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The dating scene here is good. Don't worry. Just be polite and act like you love Taiwan and the dates will never be a problem.
Then you actually will love Taiwan.  |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:17 am Post subject: |
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People are people, love is love and sex is sex no matter where you go on this planet.
Here on Taiwan Westerners may have something more to offer a perspective partner that they didn't have back home. Westerners look unique in a world that lacks uniqueness. Keeping that in mind has a way of giving people the confidence they need to approach or attract a potential partner.
Good luck and happy hunting.
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DZNZ
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: Thanks . . . |
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| Thanks for the input everyone. |
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Mozilla
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| If you've come all this way expecting women to flock to you just because you're white.... |
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MTurton
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Mozilla wrote: |
| If you've come all this way expecting women to flock to you just because you're white.... |
...you're probably not too far wrong. The only white guys between 20 and 55 I know who are not dating local girls are either already married to a local, married to a fellow bignose, or complete assholes. There are quite a few of the last category, though. Apparently lots of Taiwanese have to learn the hard way that if a man is still unmarried at 35 or 40 there's probably a very good reason.
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kait
Joined: 17 Jun 2004
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Location: Lungtan, Taiwan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| I am the only female native English speaker in my school. From my observations of the men who are actively interested in dating, they don't seem to have any difficulty finding interested locals. |
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matchstick_man
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Location: Taiwan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I'm 34 and unmarried and not going out with a Taiwanese girl. I don't want to deal with the cultural baggage. I have no desire to stay here or to import a person to my home country. Yes, I am yhinking long-term rather than short-term.
By Michael Turton's reasoning I am a loser. Maybe. |
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logician
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So I get off work around 10:30 p.m. and stop by a late-night diner for a takeaway dan bing.
A presentable woman somewhere in her 20's or 30's strikes up a conversation and offers me her cell phone number. I reciprocate. She briefly introduces her mother and kid sister, who are eating with her. I smile and nod.
Romance? Hardly. Friendly flirtation? Yes. Or maybe she really just wanted a nice, non-romantic Platonic friendship.
I am very glad that friendly flirtation is not limited to bars and dance clubs, because I don't much like the bars here and I have yet to find a decent dance club.
I'm not going out with anyone. I *am* a loser, romantically speaking, but that's fine because I made my peace with that a long time ago. Maybe I'll get married some day, and maybe I won't. Many of my acquaintances urge me to have a lot of romances in the hope I'll find the right girl but I just don't work that way. Like matchstick_man, I prefer to think of the possibility of long-term romance. Maybe I'll refuse to date a bunch of girls and then find one who is right, whom I want to date/marry. I don't think I should date girls I don't really like and get their hopes up and then dump them.
And yes, I am a complete a______, but that's unrelated to my lack of success in romance. I know a lot of total a______s who have lots of sex partners and are still miserable human beings.
Edit: There seems to be an automatic text filter that will edit out some, but not all, profanities. This is interesting. |
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DZNZ
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mozilla wrote: |
| If you've come all this way expecting women to flock to you just because you're white.... |
Good God -- talk about taking something out of context. Relax. |
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MTurton
Joined: 10 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| matchstick_man wrote: |
| I'm 34 and unmarried and not going out with a Taiwanese girl. I don't want to deal with the cultural baggage. I have no desire to stay here or to import a person to my home country. Yes, I am yhinking long-term rather than short-term. By Michael Turton's reasoning I am a loser. Maybe. |
What?...but you're only 34!
In any case, I was thinking of the men who are dating here in their 40s dating women half their age.
Note that...."there's probably a very good reason" would cover your case as well.
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myesl
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| MTurton wrote: |
| ...you're probably not too far wrong. The only white guys between 20 and 55 I know who are not dating local girls are either already married to a local, married to a fellow bignose, or complete assholes. There are quite a few of the last category, though. Apparently lots of Taiwanese have to learn the hard way that if a man is still unmarried at 35 or 40 there's probably a very good reason. |
Mike, I'm surprised, you usually don't post that kind of cr8p.
In my experience, in Taiwan as much as elsewhere, it's the "complete assholes" that have babes falling off of them and wearing their ring.
Some very nice guys are shy, and Taiwanese babes are much less daring than Japanese, or even Korean. Some dare to speak Chinese (a big turn off for most Taipei girls). Some people aren't necessarily looking to get married. Being in good shape seems to hurt one's chances, too. I think a lot of Taiwanese girls seem intimidated to go out with good looking guys.
Most of the white guys I knew in Taiwan did _not_ have a girlfriend of any nose length and weren't out in the bars pounding ham every weekend either, though both are common Taiwanese stereotypes that apparently some bignoses are starting to believe 
Google turned up the following quotes from the Chicago Sun Times (much the same has passed my eyes and ears from various news sources in recent years).
"According to the survey, 60 percent of singles ages 40-69 are women, a majority of them divorced. Forty-two percent of the men and 24 percent of the women had never been married."
"Close to a third of unmarried American women in their 40s through 60s who date are going out with younger men."
So it's ok for girls to do it, but still he's a dirty old man if he likes his chicken a little fresher? Why can't we stop being Puritans, judging and second guessing everyone else? |
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