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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: 'Gender strifes' Reply with quote

Firstly, before I post this one, I want to acknowledge my dependence upon God and His Holy Spirit as I'm certain that it is HE - not myself - that brings all good truths into remembrance.

From Psalm 121: "I will lift up mine eyes to the hills - from whence comes my help; my help comes from the Lord - who made the Heavens and Earth."

As I write this, I will attempt to cite Scripture when possible - I am not, however, looking up (only looking 'up') for reference as there may be simply to many...to avoid confusion ('God is not the author of confusion')
I will only use quotes from the Bible.

On a recent post, one of my answers contained the words of St. Paul,
'...avoid foolish and unlearned questions...they do gender strifes." Now,
when I was posting, I used the word 'gender' without really thinking about
it. Then another poster decided to ask me a question about gender. Well,
that question has 'inspired' me to write this reply:

Prophetic...the translation which I chose can only be described thusly. What other issue than 'gender' confusion threatens to unravel our present
day society so effectively than that of a man or a woman able to (constitutionally!) marry a person of same-sex! Think about it...centuries
of moral (and Scriptural) wisdom wiped out at the hands of a few renegade justices in Massachusetts (USA) - or now Canada who are
acting totally outside the law - AND THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE! They
most certainly should be removed from their offices!!

Now true...St. Paul was using the word more in the context of 'generate' -
but I believe God Spirit has Its (no gender) own reasons for inspiring mankind to interpert words which Paul was writing; probably in Koine Greek.

'The wisdom of God is foolishness to man.' Needs no explanation. Today, like never before, mankind is apparently losing the ability to discern good
from evil; light from darkness. I thank God for sending His Son into the world to: 'Defeat the works of darkness.' Its up to us to carry that work on in His memory. We need not be 'double-minded' when it comes to spiritual matters - there is only 'one way to the Father: and that is through His Son - Jesus'

'Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for; the EVIDENCE of things unseen.' (Hebrews 11:1) True Faith has substance and provides us with evidence. 'You will find me when you SEARCH WITH ALL YOUR HEART.' 'Seek and ye shall find...' God has made provision for us - we can either accept or reject His gift. He has given us a free-will and choice is an integral part of that. It is my earnest prayer that anyone reading this post will make the right choice...

In His Eternal and Unchanging Love...
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your recent post only confirms my previous thoughts. You are a dangerous person.

My main concern about Christians who interpret Scriptures the way you tend to do is that they become so closed-minded that they are truly lost in the light . . . to the point of doing great harm to others. If one looks at the history of Christianity, Christians supported slavery, war, and murder among other things in the name of Christianity, things that were supported by "good" Christians of their time. They weren't all that different in many aspects from a lot of modern-day "good" Christians who interpret the Scriptures to suit what they feel is "God's word" and attempt to justify their beliefs and behaviors by saying, "The Bible says it's so."

For all the good that some Christians have done for mankind and the world throughout the centuries, Christians have done more than their fair share of harm as well. History does tend to repeat itself.
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim...if I'm interperting Christianity 'in the wrong way' in your eyes -
don't you think it's 'high' time YOU picked up the banner and argued the cause in 'the right way' - given you seem to have such strong feelings about it?

There just may be a lot of people counting on you to do just that!!
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulie2003 wrote:
. . . don't you think it's 'high' time YOU picked up the banner and argued the cause in 'the right way' - given you seem to have such strong feelings about it?


You've lost me. I don't know which "cause" you're referring to. I have strong feelings about a lot of things. That doesn't mean that I'm a fanatic about those things and that I feel a need to wave banners. Again, you're showing your closed-mindedness by 1) indicating there's only one way to do something and 2) suggesting that everyone else should do things in that way.
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a suggestion, Tim...

Try to keep an open mind....
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulie2003 wrote:
Just a suggestion, Tim...

Try to keep an open mind....


If that was supposed to be some kind of put-down in either a serious or humorous way, again I'm afraid you've lost me. However, some day after one of my many more trips around the block in future lives, I may reach the point of being as open-minded about things as you appear to be.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: ooooo Reply with quote

ooohhh, now will Paulie take that as a blow to faith or to masculinity?
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree totally with the concept that there are any put-downs, jabs or for that matter - anything humorous about any of these posts. I think they are all completely sincere assertations of the world as we view it!

OK now - NO MORE FOOLING AROUND! Rolling Eyes
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: yup Reply with quote

In an existentialist kinda way, I totally agree.
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what we fear most - isn't it Guy? Thinking alike...

Just think about it!...How would you like to think like some of these OTHER posters...or should we call them imposters????
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: everyone has something to say Reply with quote

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I disagree totally with the concept that there are any put-downs, jabs or for that matter - anything humorous about any of these posts. I think they are all completely sincere assertations of the world as we view it!


Going by that statement, I would have to say it is good to think like other posters...how better to understand the question posed, or the answer given?
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have added: Today
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: today, tomorrow, and yesterday Reply with quote

I offer the same answer, regardless of the calendar date
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Paulie2003



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Athabasca river...Mt. Edith Cavell (certainly not an Indian name!)...Jasper...Banff...yes the memories flood through the gates of my mind! I took the Canadian National all the way from Montreal - what a journey it was being fresh out of high school (or thereabouts)...

I'll tell you - It sure beat going to Vietnam! Can you believe they still wanted to send me even after I protested and called myself a C.O.?

I'll tell ya...Canada was on my list!!!
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulie:

1. If they wanted to send you ANYWHERE, rather than giving you a psychiatric disqualification, the US military is even crazier than my experience of it has shown it to be.

2. Here in Mexico there has been a rash of articles in Proceso, La Jornada, etc. regarding the scandalous cover-up on the part of Pope John Paul II of the criminal sexual activity of Padre Maciel, head of Legionaries for Christ--because of a new book just published with extensive testimonials from his victims, and because Pope John Paul II just "celebrated" Maciel's 60 years as a member of the Roman Catholic clergy--con bombos y platillos as we say here. The consensus of opinion seems to be that he is protecting him because he raises more money for the church than anyone else. What's your theory? (Please try to answer the question--don't spout more hallucinatory bunk.)
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