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[ChinaMovieMagic]

Regarding...
G....enerate
O....perate
D....estroy

Three phases of the Process...the Hindu/Tantra Trinity...
We're in the "D" phase now. Some folks say we're in the "Days of Purification" leading to the '5th World" (Hopis/ Mayans/Age of Aquarius/others)...leading to another "G" phase, said by some to be approaching...increasingly visible by the end of this decade. A Web search of "Psychic Children China" reveals that INFO stating that universities such as Fudan U. and Zhejiang U. have done research w/these special kids. It is said that these special kids are sprouting up increasingly around the world, and that they're preparing the way for the evolutionary 5th World.

BUT...it's said that when the eco-sh*t hits the fan, it will NOT be PUNISHMENT as the fundamentalists preach, but it will be Feedback/Cleansing...promoting Learning in the EarthClassroom.

We'll see...

[moonraven]

nagoyaguy: Itis not at ALL clear that Bush won the election. Why do you think they are recounting votes in more than one state? If he had won by the big majority you mention that would not be necessary--not even allowed. Try reading the news once in awhile--it's something you can do while making a fool of yourself here on Dave's.

BTW, I do not owe you entertainment. You need to EARN that.

[runabout]

[moonraven]

I am never flippant.

I see: there's a difference if the "losing" candidate is sitting someplace hand-counting the ballots, instead of representatives of his/her political party doing it? Give me a break.

FYI, US presidential elections are decided by the electoral college--not by the popular vote. Hence by rigging the vote in Florida in 2000, Bush was able to maneuver his way into the Oval Office. The same rigging occurred in 2004 in both Florida and Ohio. Kerry conceded when Ohio was called for Bush. That's the way it works in the US. Antiquated system? You bet. But it's the system in place--and that's why they are recounting in Ohio--or in some cases, counting--as the absentee ballots and provisional ballots had not been counted.

It is not up to YOU to tell me what I "should" or should not do.

[justcolleen]

Of course as always I could be mistaken, but in my recollection of events the US Supreme Court decided the election.

Am I wrong?

Colleen

[moonraven]

You are right in that they decided that there "wasn't time" to make a recount in Florida, which essentially meant that Bush was given the state with a difference of somewhere around 500 votes.

[runabout]

[moonraven]

runabout,

Of course you are flaming! Tossing the flamethrower and winking and saying that you didn't do that is, I suppose, something that goes over well with your peer group of 6th graders? BTW, what are you doing posting on a teacher's site? And "slightly affiliated" with the ACLU? (Does that mean if you buy a NY TIMES, you are slightly affiliated with its editorial staff?)

My student evaluations are always excellent, and I would read them even if they weren't. Interesting that I am the only professor who goes to the trouble to design evaluative tools for his/her classes, and who gives the results in both summary form and hard copy to the academic vice-president of the university. Perhaps it's because I am a professional? Or because I think the employer should see the results of the courses that he pays me to design and teach? (Or that I take my job as an educator seriously, instead of using it to avoid unemployment lines in my home country and give me access to cheap beer? See how easily I can propagandize by making arrogant assumptions, too?)

It's also interesting that although Carter and his Carter Center folks travel the globe observing, auditing and certifying elections (a recent example, the one in Venezuela where Hugo Ch�vez DID win big--his third big win in a presidential election--all 3 of which were certified clean by the Carter Center)--and his word is taken as definitive in regard to other countries, yet in the US if he says the election was rigged, after predicting that it would be due to zero audit controls, suddenly YOU claim that his word is meaningless (?!) Don't give me the "nobody is a prophet in his own land" response, either--Carter's credibility is infinitely greater than yours.

What you are totally missing here--and which DOES have to do with the topic of this thread--is that Kerry and Bush represent the same interests and have the same pitch--I haven't been calling them Tweedledee and Tweedledumb since last March for no reason. Neither of them suggested that they would pull US troops out of Iraq--meaning that neither of them represented the interests of millions who reject the war.

That still doesn't mean that the election was clean. It clearly wasn't. It COULD have been--if the same technology was used that was used in Venezuela, which produced auditable paper ballots to check against the machine totals. The US government, however, didn't want it to be clean--therefore the same hanging chads that were a bone of contention in 2000 are still, yes, hanging around. And the same candidates are stealing elections. I believe that implies the institutionalization of election fraud.

[Josh Lyman]

[nomadder]

Once again it's proven that religion is no excuse for lack of education.

[Nagoyaguy]

I find it amazing that bitter lefties and aging hippies are still whining about the results two electoral cycles ago. For God's sake, it's over!!

Their arrogance knows no boundaries. In 2004, Bush won by, let's see, just over 3 million votes in the popular vote, and by 34 votes in the Electoral College. Plus, the GOP gained 4 seats in the Senate, 4 seats in the House of Representatives, and broke even in governorships (still hold a 28 to 21 lead nationally). Convincing numbers to all but a few fringe elements and professional protesters.

Recounting is happening because it is allowed. More power to it, it is a testament to the electoral system.

[ContemporaryDog]

I've got to admit that my views have fluctuated on the Iraq war. First I was against, then I began to be swayed by the argument that Saddam was a nasty dictator and leaving him in power would be worse in the long run than getting rid of him. However now I seem to be going back to my original viewpoint. In the end, it is not the perogative of the west to sort out other countries' problems. Iraq seems to be going from bad to worse now. And it has created more terrorism than it solved.

And besides, Bush is an idiot. End of story. It worries me somewhat that the world's most powerful country votes for a twonk like that!

[ContemporaryDog]

Oh, and the "I bet you America haters eat Mcdonalds" argument is utter nonsense.

besides which, you are bracketing everyone who criticises the war on iraq into 'america haters'. Like saying that someone who was against, say, British treatment of Aborigines as "Britain haters" or someone who was against the holocaust as "German haters". It is a cliche, and is utter, patronising, idiotic, juvenile nonsense!!!

I like many things about America (apart from the hideous spellings), but don't see why I shouldn't criticise bad things that it does. Its the most powerful country in the world and furthermore, is a democracy and therefore must be open, accountable and accepting of criticism.

There probably are a minority of Islamofascists and far-lefties who would like to see the US wiped out, and you would be fair to level the "I bet you eat mcdonalds" criticism at them. However, levelling it at people who simply disagree with a war against a sovereign country with no good cause, is stupid, and at the level of idiots who watch Fox news and refer to tbe BBC as the "Baghdad Broadcasting corporation".

This seems to be a real problem in the world today, you can't criticise an ideology or a thing without being called a 'hater' of it. Same with radical Islam, which I also find fascistic and repressive. Hate stonings? You evil racist. Disagree with purdah? You must be a supporter of the NF. And also with Israel. Think its wrong to bulldoze Palestinian settlements on the West Bank? Must be a raving anti-semite. (although having said that again I think there are SOME people who do use Israel as an excuse to bash Jewish people, and also some people who criticise Islam and use it as an excuse to 'get away with being racist - but in none of these cases does it encompass all the criticisers).

At least we Brits don't go round calling people "Britophobes" when someone mentions bad things we did under the Empire. We don't shout "Well I bet you like watching Hamlet!" or "I bet you'd like to shag Melanie Sykes!" at them...

[runabout]

[moonraven]

YOU lack communication skills; it's just that simple, flamer.

To those posters who seem to feel that the center of the Universe is McDonald's--for good or bad--I have never eaten at McDonald's. I am a US citizen who does not eat garbage.