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urbanrail



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Bring how much money to Japan? Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone who has experience in Japan could answer this question for me: How much money should I bring with me if I'm going to Japan with AEON? I have read the FAQs on this site and have seen ~500,000 yen quoted. Unfortunately, there is absolutely no way I could afford to take that much with me. As far as I know with AEON the key money and deposits and so on are taken care of. Also, I would be going with a work visa in hand. Is it reasonable to assume I could survive until my first pay on about ~200,000 yen? I should say a few things about my habits: I don't go to clubs, I don't drink or smoke, I cook all of my meals at home, I spend most of my free time either reading or just going for walks, I don't spend money on shopping unless it's necessary, I hate taxis and rather love buses/subways (hence my handle) and I communicate with family and friends almost exclusively through email (which I could do at my training centre/school). Besides about ~40,000 yen for rent which is quoted on the AEON site, subsidized transportation costs and grocery costs (just some meat, vegetables, noodles and rice) is there really anything else I need money for? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rent 40,000/month
groceries 30,000/month
utilities 15,000-20,000/month
phone setup 70,000 for new land line, less for used land line (don't know if AEON has already done this for you)
monthly phone charge 3500-5000 / month
insurance? 2500/month for national health insurance (don't know if you have another type)

Those are the bare basics. If you want a cell phone to accompany your home phone, you'll pay more. You'll also pay more if you want cable/satellite TV options.

I assume AEON pays for local transportation, but I don't know if they do this in advance, or if you get reimbursed.

And, do you know exactly when your first paycheck will come, and whether that will be a full salary check, or a reduced one because of being on a probationary training period?

And I wouldn't count on sending personal messages on email from work. You may not even have the time. So, add a bit more to set up an email account at home.
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Nismo



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
groceries 30,000/month
utilities 15,000-20,000/month
phone setup 70,000 for new land line, less for used land line (don't know if AEON has already done this for you)
monthly phone charge 3500-5000 / month


Wow, interesting numbers there. I would change the costs to:
food (in general, both groceries and eating out): 50,000-60,000 Yen/month. I can't spend under 60,000 without starving, but I'm also the type of person who will not sacrifice quality to save money.

utilities: 8,800-10,000 Yen/month. 8,800 if you are tolerant of climate variations, you can go over 10,000 if you use the heater and AC excessively (I don't ever use either of them unless I have a guest over).

phone: 70,000 direct from NTT is right on, but definitely look to buy one used for no more than 35,000.

monthly phone charge: I only paid 2,500 Yen/month for mine. May vary by region.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:

I assume AEON pays for local transportation, but I don't know if they do this in advance, or if you get reimbursed.

And, do you know exactly when your first paycheck will come, and whether that will be a full salary check, or a reduced one because of being on a probationary training period?




Glenski, I just saw this on the AEON website

The teacher is responsible for the first 42,000 yen of the rent each month. AEON pays the rest of the rent over 42,000. Commuting expenses are covered for teachers who live more than 1.5 km from work. Most teachers pay around 10,000 yen a month for their utilities and 60,000 yen for food (approximations; the amount varies from person to person).


By Japanese law AEON is required to pay your transportation to get to work but theoretically if you live under a mile from school, ride a bicycle or your train stop is one stop or less than a mile from your school (walking distance) they may not pay your transportation (you are probably looking at anything between 120-200 yen one way or up to 400 yen a day or 8,000 yen a month for transportation).

Also it says that the employee is responsible for the first 42,000 yen of rent and AEON will pay the rest (I assume this is if you use their provided accomodation). No word about what happens when you rent other non-school accomodation but the general belief is that you pay AEON regardless.

Couldnt tell you about when you get transportation repaid but usually its included in your first or second paycheck, and you would probably have to show them your commutation pass or bus tickets etc to claim a refund.
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guest of Japan



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 1601
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

20,000 yen will be enough. I believe AEON recommends about this amount as well. You won't live like a king, but you will be fine.

Your first months rent will come out of your first paycheck. AEON's payday is on the 25th of each month and deposited directly into your bank account. You are paid for anytime worked up until two weeks of this date. Obviously the first paycheck will be small because you will likely have only worked one or two weeks of the pay period when the first check comes. The initial one week training is fully paid. And you will also receive return of the deposit you give at the end of the training period.

Refunds of transportation expenses are instantaneous. Just present the receipt to the school and they will pay you cash back right on the spot. Usually AEON will make the initual transportation arrangements for newbies, so there won't be any need to worry about a refund.

The first week of training is very hectic, so you won't have much time to spend money for anything other than food. At the end of the training the trainers will put you on a train to your new school at company expense. You will be picked up at the train station by staff from your new school. They will then put you in a hotel for about 5 days at company expense while the previous teacher finishes his/her contract and moves out of the apartment you will be moving into. The apartment will be furnished, but you'll have to put money into buying things like towels and bathroom products and of course food.

You will probably be invited out a lot by your new students. Depending on the generosity of your students these nights out could be free of expensive.

Try to budget so that you have at least 100,000 yen remaining from your current savings at the time you recieve you first partial paycheck and you will not find yourself in a pinch.
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LA Galaxy



Joined: 24 Jun 2004
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Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came to JApan in 1999 with Westgate. I was so broke and in debt that I could only bring 500 bucks untill my first paycheck. I did bring a lot of products from back home like toothpaste, shampoo, alcohol, and even instant ramen. I brought 2 suitcases full of stuff. I feared Japan would be so expensive, but it actually wasn't untill I learned where to buy food. I spent 200 bucks the first week, one night one going to roppongi and also for paying for a taxi. Since you don't drink I reccomend bringing 750-1,000 just to be safe. I assume they have taken care of your accomodations, insurance, etc. Also make sure you brink a credit card. I don't advise coming to Japan with very little money how I did, especially if you like going out and drinking.
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