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The "Why" of Teaching

 
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struelle



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: The "Why" of Teaching Reply with quote

OK so I've just started a professional teaching program at a university in my country of origin, which is focused on high school students. The student teachers in our module (about 30 in all) are preparing to teach different subjects. This program is degree transferable, but not exclusively a degree program. This is my "next step" after TEFL so to speak, but remarkably, a lot of stuff from this program can be applied to teaching English.

While I was teaching overseas, we seldom touched on the "why" questions of being a teacher. The last 3 years were very much focused on the "how and what" (course content and methods), not to mention extensive lesson planning and classroom management skills which I learned on the CELTA course. I questioned myself many times about why I went into teaching and my own personal style. Overall the feedback was great but some of the difficult times really tested my committment to the profession. At times I asked myself, "Am I really a teacher?" and "Was this the right choice?"

So far, I've stuck with it and don't regret the TEFL experience at all.

Now, the beginning of this training course exclusively deals with such 'peripheral' questions above. The tutors are really making us question our own values, beliefs, and personal convictions about teaching on a very broad level. Above all, they stress, teaching is about caring for students, believing in them, inspiring them, being a role-model, and bringing meaning to their lives. We did an exercise in groups where we kept asking each other "why" questions to get at the basis of our personal paradigms.

Actually, many of us weren't so clear on that. One of us in the group started crying when a tutor dropped into the conversation and began probing her for answers.

Personally I've always believed that teachers should care for students, indentify with them, believe in them, and assume their frame of reference to help them solve problems. So I mostly agree with what's being said by the tutors, but two nagging issues keep coming up:

(1) Is all this talk about personal values genuine, or could there be some other agenda at work? That agenda may be, you guessed right, weeding people out of the course. I'm mainly thinking about this quote from a tutor:

"If you're in teaching and it doesn't suit you, that's the worst thing in the world."

I totally agree of course, but a side-effect of all this questioning is to wonder if teaching really does suit me or not. In other words, I have doubts now!

(2) What about actually knowing your stuff? A teacher can be the most caring person in the world, but if he doesn't know his material and can't execute a lesson plan, then it means jack.

Maybe it's all my Asian experience, but I figure that caring for students and gaining their respect comes through mastering the material and communicating that in an interesting and engaging way, in so doing enabling students to think for themselves.

At any rate, this should be a good course.

Steve
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd feel that the 'why' questions are too intrusive into my persona.
I mean, to a certain extent, it's nobody's business why I chose the profession - so long as I am well trained, and I care to do my professional best at my job. Although, I'd have multiple answers as to why I chose to teach language!!

After all, what kinds of answers would you get if you put the 'why' to professionals in other fields? Would it be different in health care versus computer science, for example? Maybe it should be...but is that any real business of educators??!!

We ask students why they are studying English - but it's because this gives us insights into what we need to help them focus on, as teachers. I don't think it would be the same for teachers on a training course for professionals.

I'll be interested to see what others think about this one. I suppose there could be some good reason I haven't thought of for trainers to push so hard for the 'whys.'
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Dr.J



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Why?' is the most important question about your career.

Really, it's what sets us apart from animals.

Having doubts ...don't worry too much, they come and go.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Why" of Teaching Reply with quote

struelle wrote:
A teacher can be the most caring person in the world, but if he doesn't know his material and can't execute a lesson plan, then it means jack.

Actually a teacher cannot be the most caring int he world but not know their stuff. They go hand in hand. Show me your faith without your works and I'll show you mine by my works... sort of thing.

Know your stuff = You care about students

Personally, I agree with your tutor's comment that it is the worst thing int he world if your teaching and it doesn't suit you. As I've said before, as teachers we're messing with people's minds here. It better suit you...
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struelle



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: The "Why" of Teaching Reply with quote

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Actually a teacher cannot be the most caring int he world but not know their stuff. They go hand in hand. Show me your faith without your works and I'll show you mine by my works... sort of thing.


That was my point exactly, and I tend to be skeptical of education paradigms that stress the 'caring' about 'touchy-feely' parts too much. If you know your stuff, it shows you care. Actually I'm finding out more about this program as it goes along, and they do address the nitty gritty parts of teaching - but that's later on. They want to set the overview first, which is a decent idea.

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Personally, I agree with your tutor's comment that it is the worst thing int he world if your teaching and it doesn't suit you. As I've said before, as teachers we're messing with people's minds here. It better suit you...


Of course, but 'messing with people's minds' isn't exactly what I think teaching is about. 'Messing with minds' or 'getting into people's heads' reeks of indoctrination if you ask me!! Teaching is more like helping others develop their own cognitive resources to think for themselves and solve problems.

And the classes should be interesting, too.

Steve
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dmb



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally agree with Shooj but I have never thought of teaching as 'messing with people's minds'
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: The "Why" of Teaching Reply with quote

struelle wrote:

(2) What Maybe it's all my Asian experience, but I figure that caring for students and gaining their respect comes through mastering the material and communicating that in an interesting and engaging way, in so doing enabling students to think for themselves.

At any rate, this should be a good course.

Steve


What I am missing in your list of teacher motivations is a reference to your emploer. Realistically, you must taker into consideration various political and social parameters that narrow your vision of how to perform your teaching duties. A teacher essentially has a mission entrusted to him by a political system, usually the state. The teacher thus has to do society's bidding. In an autoritarian society, the rulers define a techer's job, and in a democratic society the whole community - local or national - define your job.
In western countries, parents are normally involved in the day-to-day running of schools via parent teacher associations, whereas in developing nations teachers are virtually alone at the class front, with their employers standing right behind their backs, sometimes with a loaded gun in their hands.
Thus, you are not totally free to do what your professional and moral conscience dictates to you; you have to submit to some political authority. You are complicit in perpetuating ideological myths. This should not be forgotten when discussing this issue.
Reading up in some U.S.-based Montessori forum I am alarmed to note how easily a teacher becomes a manipulable tool in the hands of self-righteous parents. Parents seem to be the ultimate authority, whereas in China it is incompetent principals.
The "beneficiary"? The student. Teaching nowadays is too student-centered, at least in my opinion!
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
I normally agree with Shooj but I have never thought of teaching as 'messing with people's minds'

It's okay, agreement is not mandatory Wink

What I meant to say was [deep breath] that if you are in it and it isn't your thing you are a liability far more than if you are on a check out and it isn't your thing. Teachers can be serious influences on people. I think we all agree on that. Teaching has ethical issues attached to it which many jobs do not. In other branches of education as well as other fields such as medicine and law, ethical codes are agreed and policed. In TEFL they are not and this, IMHO, makes it a place where serious harm can be done to people. That is why I believe that people who are not suited to TEFL should be directed elsewhere as soon as possible.
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GreenDestiny



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks struelle. It's refreshing to read an opening post not focussed on political whining...

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struelle



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks struelle. It's refreshing to read an opening post not focussed on political whining...


You're welcome.

Just a follow-up on my teaching program, it's progressing at a nice rate. I'm now encountering a whole new dimension to teaching and education philosophy, not to mention some brand new strategies for lesson plans already. One tutor used the metaphor of a play script for how to do a lesson plan. She also paralleled the mechanics of a lesson plan to creative writing and literature.

Although at this point we are far away from practical teaching methods (as opposed to CELTA where they jumped right in), what's really interesting is to see how the tutors set up group work they want us to do.

One of them used the TBL (task-based learning) format which is common to EFL lessons. First we had a warmer, using the exact same game I often played with Chinese students. Then he stimulated interest by having us discuss the question, "What is teaching?". Then he gave out copies of lengthy articles for us to read, but in an info exchange format. That is, some groups of 4 got Article A, other groups of 4 got Article B.

Unlike with TEFL handouts, these readings were monstrously long, up to 10 pages. We all read silently, and it took half an hour. We were tasked, first, to summarize the main points of the article in our own groups. Then, we had to teach the other groups and exchange info. That went on for another half-hour. Finally we swapped papers and read the other ones for homework.

Since this was all in our first language, instructions were short and simple, no need to slow down and make checks. As well, discussion was highly involved and there was no need to give language feedback. So what did the tutor do? He monitored and joined in discussions, but mostly to keep us on task. Afterwards, the feedback had no 'error corrections' and 'language focus' like in TEFL, but he was really focused on how we went about teaching the material to the other groups. Makes sense, given that our whole aim was to read articles and then teach them.

I found it really interesting to see a typical EFL lesson successfully play out in my first language. Proof that this stuff really works.

Steve
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