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Boy Wonder



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: A valuable insight into our 'profession'! Reply with quote

Here goes... click on the link and savour the sarcastic cynicism..because after all it isn't too far from the truth.
www.englishdroid.com

I liked it!
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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Swan and Walters really write that article about Mario on that link?
http://www.englishdroid.com/comeoffitmario.html
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dyak



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha... that site makes me cry laughing! Laughing
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leeroy



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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Location: London UK

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a re-hash of a website that was around a few years ago known as "I hate teaching English". It seems that the owner has decided to re-do it - albeit not using his real name anymore. Very wise Smile
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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Location: Montreal

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I checked out the site. It was hillarious. I couldn't stop laughing.

The best part: it's all true.
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merlin



Joined: 10 May 2004
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Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a re-hash of a website that was around a few years ago known as "I hate teaching English". It seems that the owner has decided to re-do it - albeit not using his real name anymore. Very wise


Actually, the site was called simonbarnes.com and the yahoo groups was "I hate teaching english". Englishdroid.com isn't a re-hash. It's all new stuff, at least as much as I read.

I kinda think Simon Barnes was a pen name, too.

englishdroid.com - A New Hope


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basiltherat



Joined: 04 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny, yes. But its a shame that people can be so negative about this gig. I mean, I have had some great success stories doing this teaching thing. All right, the conditions we work under can be pretty appalling but its better than being one of the unemployed; of which there are a lot. I think you can take this job seriously if you want to. Its really up to each individual and his/her attitude to it and life in general.
Anyway, it keeps me off the streets.
regards
basil Smile
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leeroy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon Barne was his real name - I worked for EF Indonesia too, and knew people who knew him. We even swapped a couple of ideas for his old site on his (now extinct) yahoo group. If we're going to get tied up in specifics, I believe the URL was

www.simonbarne.com/ihateteachingenglish Smile

I distinctly remember a lot of what is on his new site being on his old one - although there is a lot of new stuff here as well.
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merlin



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, well.
I can't be right all the time, can I?

basiltherat -
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But its a shame that people can be so negative about this gig.

I think the fun is directed more towards the kind of teacher who takes themselves too seriously. The "professional teacher" who believes he/she's above the rest of us just because of the claim to being a professional.
It's a variation on the Emperor's New Clothes story. Instead of saying "The Emperor is Nekid" and the story finishing, englishdroid.com has decided to do a parody, stripping off his clothes and bringing the well-known fairytale to a farcical conclusion.
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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Location: Montreal

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most things on Englishdroid.com ring true because great many teachers are either pompous beyond belief or incompetent beyond belief, or both.

Most students, on their part, are:
A. Lazy and want things to happen really fast without much effort.

B. Work their butts off but only on grammar, are completely deaf to the teacher's advice who repeats like a parrot, "You can't master English this way".

C. Simply don't have the ability to learn any language and linger in English classes without an inch of progress.

D. Are pretty fluent and can do most anything in English, yet feel that there is something more to be learnt by being in class and expect this from the teacher who tells them to no avail, "You're done. Go home".

The teachers don't know how to teach and the students don't know how to learn. It is the blind leading the blind. No one really knows how languages are acquired, therefore taught. Most research is inconclusive. Haven't you noticed that those who master English, that is, develop a native like ability, never, ever achieved it in class? I call those who study languages in class FLATLINERS because as soon as they hit the intermediate levels they level off.

If teaching English were a truly reputable profession, there wouldn't be the mind boggling proliferation of language schools around the world and the one month scams like CELTA wouldn't be spawned.
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Twisting in the Wind



Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also read the original link. Hahahaha. Very true, but I also have had the best time teaching ESL/EFL. Yes, there are the lows, but I've also had great times playing games with the ss and seeing the ss's eyes light up when I explained something maybe no other teacher was able to explain to them, or when I held a student who was sobbing uncontrollably because she was homesick or his dog died and he was now all alone in a foreign land.
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Deconstructor



Joined: 30 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisting in the Wind wrote:
I also read the original link. Hahahaha. Very true, but I also have had the best time teaching ESL/EFL. Yes, there are the lows, but I've also had great times playing games with the ss and seeing the ss's eyes light up when I explained something maybe no other teacher was able to explain to them, or when I held a student who was sobbing uncontrollably because she was homesick or his dog died and he was now all alone in a foreign land.


You're thinking of pseudo psychology not English teaching.

You only reinforce everything I read about EFL teachers in Englishdroid.com
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