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Brooks



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: public housing Reply with quote

I would like to know what people think about public and Co-op housing in Japan.
What are the good and bad points about it?
Does anyone know the websites for it in Japanese?

thanks.
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campestre



Joined: 16 Sep 2004
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its very good if u can get it, the longer you stay the cheaper the cleaning bill at the end is, a friend lives in one massive complex, its cool if can get it, must be married to a J national, or have a lower income than normal, every city office has an section that deals with all that
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Mike L.



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a search on "UDC." (Urban development Corporation)


That turns up about 5 threads where I've talked about my good experience with public housing in Japan...

Unfortunately the link is dead now...
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Iwantmyrightsnow



Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go here and look under housing. There are some links about public housing

http://www.generalunion.org/nova/faq.htm
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Mike L.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it. It's changed!
:lol:

http://www.ur-net.go.jp/
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it rules. It's called kodan in Japanese. Search this site.
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks. In the future I am going to move. Maybe it will be in a year or two. I am thinking about living in either Kanazawa or the Kansai region.

What is the limit for income?

I have a Japanese wife, and she said that public housing isn`t always good because the units tend to be farther from train stations and that Japanese people have to do some kind of work at the housing place from time to time.

Basically, we want to save money. Obviously I like the idea that the deposit/key money is refundable.

I looked at a brochure for the units in Kanagawa, but they tend to be kind of expensive. I work with a guy who is 5 minutes away from an express stop, but he has to pay 120,000 a month for a 2LDK.

Another place I looked at was fine but too close to the railroad, so that would have been too noisy.
Currenly I live in a 3LDK, but in the future I may want a bigger place, since my wife has so much stuff and has more stuff at her mother`s house. I think 30 boxes!
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Iwantmyrightsnow



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks wrote:
thanks. In the future I am going to move. Maybe it will be in a year or two. I am thinking about living in either Kanazawa or the Kansai region.

What is the limit for income?

I have a Japanese wife, and she said that public housing isn`t always good because the units tend to be farther from train stations and that Japanese people have to do some kind of work at the housing place from time to time.

Basically, we want to save money. Obviously I like the idea that the deposit/key money is refundable.

I looked at a brochure for the units in Kanagawa, but they tend to be kind of expensive. I work with a guy who is 5 minutes away from an express stop, but he has to pay 120,000 a month for a 2LDK.

Another place I looked at was fine but too close to the railroad, so that would have been too noisy.
Currenly I live in a 3LDK, but in the future I may want a bigger place, since my wife has so much stuff and has more stuff at her mother`s house. I think 30 boxes!


There are actually 3 different kinds of public housing and this affects prices. Some kinds are old and cheap but some thru the UDC?? are very new and expensive but with relatively low deposits that can be paid off over time. The cheaper type used to be on a lottery system and harder to get. Not sure if it is still the same.
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einsenundnullen



Joined: 07 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iwantmyrightsnow must mean national, prefectural, and municpal public housing. The stuff you'll see on the UDC site is the national public housing, I think. After chewing off Mike L's ear a few times, it turns out I already know a few folks in this sort of housing. Another acquaintance checked into municpal public housing and was unimpressed, iirc.

What's this about doing work around the place? I don't think my friends in kodans do that.

Chris
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inkansai



Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kodan revised its application procedures towards the end of last year. Tenants for new buildings are usually decided by a lottery system.

The conditions for rental vary from building to building. Some Kodan apartments are for families. Others are for singles, and they have introduced a house sharing category as well.

For some buildings you can pay the deposit in installments (the have a campaign running until March 31st) over three years. One big plus for me with Kodan was that I didn't need a japanese guarantor.

Some of the Kodan are a little "scary". It is really case by case.
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Mike L.



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what's available in Kanagawa but there seems to be a lot to say the least.

Here it is:

http://www.ur-net.go.jp/akiya/kanagawa/

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What's this about doing work around the place? I don't think my friends in kodans do that.


Yeah, like anywhere else, you have to put your garbbage out on the designated days.

That's it!

If you accept hearsay as legitimate then you might as well pay key money and make believe that there's some sort of housing shortage in
Japan when clearly there isn't.

I'll leave it at that!
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