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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 1477 Location: Wuhan, China
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| I have to say I'm sceptical about the claims one poster makes about Japan. Maybe in some jobs, but the average job I see advertised in Japan pays around 18000 quid a year, which is about what I made in my crappy job in London. I wasn't saving anything like 1000 US a month and driving a sports car - and Japan is on average even more expensive than the UK! |
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zaneth
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 545 Location: Between Russia and Germany
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Not that I suggest it as an option, but:
Russia. Small private university. Official. Paid apartment. Virtually no commute. 12 classroom hours a week. Enough money to eat but not really enough to cover all visa expenses and a trip home every year or loan payments or to save. Small, historically interesting town. Intelligent people. Clean, beautiful white winters. Opportunity for graduate work.
Wow, sounds good, writing it. But being Russia, everything is subject to change, lifestyle and conditions are not Japanese or Western standard. Beauracracy takes some getting used to, and then it changes. Frustrations abound. And not all that exotic when it comes down to it. Not exactly the easiest place to live, but I have heard of some westerners retiring here and enjoying it. |
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Hod
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 1613 Location: Home
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to say I'm sceptical about the claims one poster makes about Japan. Maybe in some jobs, but the average job I see advertised in Japan pays around 18000 quid a year, which is about what I made in my crappy job in London. I wasn't saving anything like 1000 US a month and driving a sports car - and Japan is on average even more expensive than the UK! |
Sceptical of all ex-Japanese teachers. When I meet one, the subject of money pops up within ten seconds. When asked about the country, the culture, the language, blank stares get followed with, "yes, but good money".
The easiest country to teach in is a/the country you like. That's always been very important to me which I why I slag off my current place so much on here whilst lauding elsewhere. If you dislike your country, even the lowest workload will seem like hell. Believe me, I'm there now, but not for long. |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| The easiest country to teach in is a/the country you like. |
Now that's the best advice yet, Hod. You only ever get out of teaching abroad what you put in, be it money/effort, culture/open-mindedness, pleasure/free spirit, etc, etc.
I don't think any country would qualify as the 'easiest' if one isn't willing to give 100% toward whichever goal one has. |
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stevenabroad
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 34
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| I would have to second China. Perfect for you...low hours, pay and expectations. |
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T-Bone
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Phnom Penh
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Taught English in Japan for a year. Didn't save a dime.
I think you can save there if working at a Uni (and have an MA to get such a gig) but at about Y250,000 a month ($27,000/yr or so US) at a conversation school it's pretty hard to save.
I think it's possible to save, but you can't really go out all that often.
Everyone's experience is different, though. |
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Deconstructor

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 775 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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KOREA!!!!!!!!
When I got there, they gave me Side by Side and let me loose. Using that book for every level meant that I did virtually nothing, but, boy, did I take my students out for drinks. After a few, I would tell them that I was thinking about setting up my own business: language school/pub. I was going to be a teacher/bartender. I was going to call the place WELCOME TO GLASS. Students had to sit at the bar and the class wouldn't start unless they had at least one bear in them. When asked why, I told them that beer actually reduces inhibitions and facilitates learning languages. (I think there is something to this.)  |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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