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Bubba
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Depends a bit on where your friend hopes to teach, but on-line courses are not considered adequate by language schools in many countries, because they lack supervised teaching practice. |
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Sekhmet
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Bubba - what Spiral says is true. A lot of places don't accept online certification, and this is all over the world (to my knowledge!!). Plus, if your friend has never done any teaching, how are they supposed to know if they like it?? An observed teaching practicum and over 100 hors of input sessions is the way forward... |
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dyak

Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 630
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's the epitome of how unregulated this industry is, that you can get 'accredited' to teach online without setting foot in a classroom!
I have a certificate from www.becomeasurgeononline4less.com, can i take your tonsils out?
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foreignDevil
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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The places that would accept online certificates are most likely the places that would also accept no certificate at all. That is, the certificate is superfluous.
Where I am in China my employer actually rewards tefl certificate-holders with a small salary increase, but it is a laughable amount, and they don't care where the certificate is from. And there is absolutely no change in your professional status within the school. |
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budgie
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:42 am Post subject: |
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How about in the middle east? I have a friend who's a non-native speaker but hopes to get work teaching children or something. What kind of TEFL would she need? |
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marblez
Joined: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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budgie wrote: |
How about in the middle east? I have a friend who's a non-native speaker but hopes to get work teaching children or something. What kind of TEFL would she need? |
What are her qualifications? Does she know what the Middle East expects? I would assume not, but we need more details. |
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Sekhmet
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 329 Location: Alexandria, Egypt
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, the Middle East has lots and lots of different requirements, depending on which country, type of institution, experience, proficiency, etc. Countries like Kuwait and KSA are unlikely to offer jobs to non-native speakers because their pay scales are pretty high and competition can be fierce, even among native speakers.
Egypt is more likely to have something, but again, it all depends on the type of institution. A language school might be able to offer something, but the pay would be quite low. Wages in Egypt are low at best, but for a person with no qualifications, no experience, and a non-native speaker, you could end up on a subsistence wage.
However, a decent TEFL qualification, some experience and a BA could land a decent job here, even for a non-native speaker. |
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budgie
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 40
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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budgie wrote: |
How about in the middle east? I have a friend who's a non-native speaker but hopes to get work teaching children or something. What kind of TEFL would she need? |
She's got a degree in Hotel Management from South Australia, and will be working in the UAE. I think she's after part time work to supplement her income. But she's Chinese and just being pretty might not be enough if she's not a native speaker. |
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