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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually am joking, but in this case, the jokers are in Congress
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richtx1



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Location: Ciudad de M�xico

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Environmental education Reply with quote

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I'm with you on the need for education about this kind of thing.


Actually, the garbage recycling project is using one of the more creative educational programs I've seen in a long time. Who is responsible for handling most garbage in the home? The housewife. Where do Mexican housewives -- those that don't watch educational TV or listen to Public Service Announcements on talk-radio -- get information? From the "soaps". What is the best literature in the country? Comic books.

SO... there are huge bill-board size historiettas (comic book soap operas) featuring an attractive couple, with sex, romance, a hint of violence in the latest episode... and GARBAGE RECYCLING.

Having always dumpster-dived (cruised rich neighborhoods on trash night in my old pickup truck for good stuff) in the U.S., I'm always frustrated by the amount of informal recycling that is already done. The "good stuff" and resalable stuff is sorted out on the garbage truck. Getting people to sort organico and inorganico takes time, but everything does.

Air quality has improved, just in the 4 years I've been here. We don't have "hoy no circula" days very often, even with switching to stricter U.N. air quality standards. The taxi and bus replacement program, the better fuel standards and the better public transit (just a block away the new metro-bus stations are going up, hopefully to open in May and take the rutas off Insurgentes) all help.

Maybe it's just a loco febrero... or maybe it's global warming... or maybe Tlaloc is angry at us, but that rain sure surprised me.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not exactly pleasant to think of it this way, but the most efficient method of recycling has been operating in Mexico for some time. If you were visit the dumps, you would find many families living nearby that make a living raking through to salvage anything of value, and I mean anything.

I've heard of how civic recyclinjg systems work for Toronto and Ottawa. While we might feel good about putting everything in its appropriate colour-coordinated box, the truth of the matter is that the facilities and technology don't exist yet to handle the load. Apparently, materials for recycling are piling up, creating another dump.

Toronto already sends much of its garbage to Detroit or thereabouts.

Richard, I agree that the air quality has improved in the last 4 years, noticeably. I can't remember the last 'hoy no circula' day.

Take a look at the sky today...a beautiful blue, nice warm breeze. See how the winds are going south-north instead of the reverse? I love it when it's like this. Normally, winds are north-south, approximately. With most industry up in the north of the city, you get lots of pollution in the center and south. If you look at an air quaility map (in the Herald every day), I chuckle to notice that the poorest air quality is always in the southwest zone, which is mostly rich residential area, and the best air quality is in the northeast, which is mostly poor residential area.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:16 pm    Post subject: Hoy no circula Reply with quote

OK Im showing myignorance here but I thought "hoy no circula" was that you couldnt drive your care in DF one day M-F. It also includes days when NO ONE can drive?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one? No, I don't think so. There is doble hoy no circula, when the smog is really bad. I think it's been a few years since they had one of those. On those days, double the amont of cars are taken off the road.

I think I was unclear in my post before. Every day, M-F, a car with plates that start (or finish?) with 2 digits of the 0-9 series aren't allowed to drive. Doble hoy no circula means 4 digits of the series can't drive.
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