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Weona



Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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Location: Chile

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Jzer's "slip up" was intentional?!! A little disappointed now that I know it wasn't. Embarassed

At any rate, I have had nothing but bad and so-so experiences dating Latino men. It's pretty unfotunate because I tend to be most attracted to Latinos which really complicates things because I find it's more difficult to date them than it is for me to date men from my home country. My difficulties in finding a good match has a lot of it to do with the fact that I like to have a lot of the "control" in the relationship and I find that Latino men do not like that. That machista attitude here really, really gets to me and I can't imagine myself being in a relationship with a man who expects me to cook for him, do the dishes, the laundry, etc. And you know, I realise that this isn't impossible..... but thus far very difficult.

So my advice to you is to go and date and have fun but also make sure he isn't taking advantage. Let us know how it turns out!
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly don't think that by dating a foreigner I'm saying that I look down on the locals. I was already hooked up when I got here, and hardly felt like I should dump her just cause she happens to be British.
While dating is certainly one way to build relationships and experience the place where you are living, it definitely isn't the only one. How about making friends, volunteering in the community, joining a club, taking a class at the local uni, or practicing a sport? Or joining a church, if you're into that kind of thing. All of these are "non-dating" ways to get the most of the culture where you're at.
There are many kinds of relationships that one can start with the locals. I have tried most of the above, and they work. If you're running away from yourself, you'll never find anything. If you want to integrate where you are, there are many ways, with or without dating.

Regards,
Justin

PS Or if I tell my girlfriend it's for cultural purposes, maybe she won't mind... Laughing
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I thought Jzer's "slip up" was intentional?!! A little disappointed now that I know it wasn't


Well you should not be disappointed. Maybe the Latino scene is better for men looking for women. I mean if the women are used to men requiring them to cook, clean, and stuff. A gringo should get a nice treat(since he will not be used to women cooking for him) or he can make the women feel good by not expecting them to do all of these things.
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Flo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
The problem with most of the gringos I have encountered here in mexico is that they've been running from something--frequently from themselves. Not the best posture for assimilating in a new culture....


I have to agree with Moonraven on this one. Especially in Mexico, the gringos I have met have been some the the rudest and most dishonest people I have ever encountered. Just a warning for others who are unaware...don�t trust them with your things or loan money or other things to them. It will probably be the last time you will ever see it.

As for the Peruvians, JZer has a good point about the woman who won�t stop bothering him and sending him e-mails. I spent time in Peru and it seems to me that the Peruvians tend to smoother their partners. Once you have a partner there, it is nearly impossible to get rid of him or her. They will seriously fall in love with you in 1 day and will never leave you alone. I had a friend who was stalked by a couple of different Peruvian women after he had had lunch with them one time.

My advice for Naturegirl on this one is to be sure he knows his boundaries before you get any further with him. On the other hand, if it doesn�t work out and he becomes the next stalker, you can always leave the country!
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amandajoy99



Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I have only dated locals. Why would you want to live in another country and date folks from where you come from?


because you like him/her! while it is important to me to become familiar with/integrated into the local culture, and dating a local would certainly be a good way to do that, i am not going to refuse to date someone because of his nationality!
don�t think this will be a problem for me, however. no other americans in my little brazilian town...
i do think that when dating someone from another country you�ll come across cultural differences you never even imagined existed.
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gambasbo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true, even when you date/marry someone from the USA!!! By the way, I am British.

Mike


i do think that when dating someone from another country you�ll come across cultural differences you never even imagined existed.[/quote]
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tonydicer



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I make assumptions based on what I see. And one of the things I see is that most of the folks--at least those from the US--who are working here in Latin America don't make any friendships with the local people........One of the reasons I avoid "gringos" like the plague is because of their very polarizing attitudes....


Do you have friends?


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moonraven



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no understanding with trolls.

Since you are bombarding the folks on this borad with abusive PMs, your stay on this forum will be brief, buddy.
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tonydicer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:13 pm    Post subject: PM's Reply with quote

This thing is getting off topic

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moonraven



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to being a troll, you're a liar.

You sent PMs to Guy, Chula and to me, and this is the one you sent to me, Se�or Alzheimer:

"Inbox :: Message
From: tonydicer
To: moonraven
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:20 pm
Subject: STUCK IN MEXICO?
YOU SEEM TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT LIFE, MONEY, ESL, LIVING ARRANGEMENTS, MEXICO....

AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TEACHING SO LONG IN MEXICO, THEN YOU'VE RUN AWAY FROM SOMETHING.

YOU SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS TO YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY SOUND RIDICULOUS."

This is the last time I will respond to any of your trolling.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing

SimplySteven, I don't think it matters what alias you use...your MO is the same.

Sometimes, we raz each other here on the forum, but in the end, who cares about hard feelings...this is a virtual forum for cryin' out loud. Abusive PMs are easily ignored, but you cross a line when you send threatening email, a step that could put you in jail.
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tonydicer



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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Location: Monterrey, Mexico

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Don't be confused Reply with quote

Question

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tonydicer



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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Location: Monterrey, Mexico

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lozwich wrote:

Hey naturegirl,

Coming in on this one a bit late, but just remember, in all nationalities there are nice guys and guys who want something from you, and guys you should stay away from, and all varieties of guys in between.

I'd approach a relationship with a local with the same amount of caution as I would with anyone. Follow your heart, but also keep your eyes open, and don't let anyone step on you.....


Nicely put


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sheepgirl



Joined: 15 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: dating locals Reply with quote

"The green card effect is one worry. Major culture shock is another"
I was kinda counting on dating locals as a way to prevent/get rid of culture shock?
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tonydicer



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that would be a way to combat the culture shock. But also, establishing friendships works just as well, if not better.
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