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krh



Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:31 am    Post subject: Is there work right NOW? Reply with quote

I'm working on getting some things together to leave for Taiwan soon and start looking for a job there. I may leave this week or next. I wanted to leave a couple weeks ago and arrive right after Chinese New Years but it didn't work out. Will it still be easy enough to find a job this time of year? Will it make a big difference if I come this week or next? Thanks for the advice...
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matchstick_man



Joined: 21 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not going make a huge difference. The worst time to come is Chinese New Year or just before but even then it is easy to find work. The problem really is having money to tide you over which you will need regardless of when you come.
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krh



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks... can anyone else comment?
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There aren't any really bad times to get here. The closest thing that qualifies as bad is immediately before or during Chinese new year, as the semester ends and everything shuts down for a while. Right now is a pretty good time. The semester is still new and jobs are still available. I'd say if you're flexible and willing to go where the work is, you can get here almost any time and be employed in short order. Teachers come and go all the time, new classes open up in buxibans at all times. No worries.
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Pop Fly



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing you must consider is getting your 183 days of taxable income on the books. Otherwise you lose a wheelbarrowful of $$$$.
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get here before July 1 and the tax issue will not be a problem.
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timmyjames1976



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why 183 days? I may get there around September. How bad of a tax hit am I goin to take?
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timmyjames1976



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scratch my question...i found the answer in another thread
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi krh ,
Wages and available positions for foreign teachers on Taiwan are stagnating or even decreasing island wide as a result of recent government decrees banning English language learning ( Non Chinese Teachers) in schools.

Quote:
Ministry of Education Prohibits Foreign Teachers and English Learning on Taiwan
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20836
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A.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle wrote:
Hi krh ,
Wages and available positions for foreign teachers on Taiwan are stagnating or even decreasing island wide as a result of recent government decrees banning English language learning ( Non Chinese Teachers) in schools.

Quote:
Ministry of Education Prohibits Foreign Teachers and English Learning on Taiwan
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=20836
Good luck
A.


Aristotle the link you refer to is from October 1993 - how does that affect wages at this current date, almost two years later?

You have misquoted yet again. The MOE has never banned English language instruction within schools. They merely have however always prohibited foreign teachers from teaching the language there, in order to protect the jobs of local workers.

The link that you refer to concerns the teaching, or rather prohibition of teaching, by foreigners in mainstream schools. That was not new back then, nor is it new now. It has been illegal for foreigners to teach in government schools for as long as I can remember, with the exception of those schools under the governments recent plans. How then did the events you linked to back in October 1993 have an affect upon wage rates for foreign teachers today?

Finally, how exactly does the fact that foreign teachers are not allowed to work in government schools affect foreign teacher pay rates? I don't see the link considering the majority of foreign teachers teach within private language institutions.

You posted it - maybe you care to explain!
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They merely have however always prohibited foreign teachers from teaching the language there, in order to protect the jobs of local workers.

The Ministry of Education does not have the authority to ban Foreign Teachers. As such they have banned English all together and look the other way so long as the teacher fits the Taiwan Ministry of Education Prescribed Racial profile. Nationality is not an issue, it is a race oriented policy.
The Taiwan Ministry of Education's policy is quite clear.
No blacks or whites allowed to teach Taiwanese students on Taiwan!
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anlia



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey

Can I just mention one teeny tiny thing that has been bugging me. A, in your posts you keep mentioning "on Taiwan". It's in Taiwan. You live in a country, not on it.

Thanks
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matchstick_man



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never thought I'd be sticking up for Aristotle but people live on an island and in a country. Taiwan is an island and technically not a country.
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clark.w.griswald



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused by your posts Aristotle.

First you say:

Aristotle wrote:
The Ministry of Education does not have the authority to ban Foreign Teachers.


Then within the same post you say:

Aristotle wrote:
The Taiwan Ministry of Education's policy is quite clear.
No blacks or whites allowed to teach Taiwanese students on Taiwan!


To the best of my knowledge the 'blacks and whites' and that you refer to are foreign teachers as there are no black and white local teachers. Therefore, if the MOE is banning blacks and whites from teaching Taiwanese students then they are banning foreign teachers.

Aristotle wrote:
As such they have banned English all together and look the other way so long as the teacher fits the Taiwan Ministry of Education Prescribed Racial profile. Nationality is not an issue, it is a race oriented policy.


One thing is for sure, and that is that the MOE has not prohibited English learning in or on Taiwan, despite your claim to the contrary.

In fact the MOE has expanded the English curriculum offered within the mainstream goverment schools. First they reduced the minimum age for compulsory English study to fifth and sixth grade, and more recently they reduced this further such that English is now a compulsory subject for third and fourth graders as well. It nodoubt won't be too long before it becomes a compulsory subject for all grades in elementary school from first grade and up.

As far as foreign teachers teaching in government schools, well this has never been allowed (with the exception of a few experimental schools). There has been no change in this for a long time, except for the very recent recruitment of some foreign teachers for work in rural or otherwise needy schools.

Please explain clearly exactly what it is that you are trying to say as you are currently all over the place!
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foreign teachers can no longer be deported by the MOE. TheTaiwan Ministry of Education is so corrupt and racist that their treatment of foreign nationals was embarrassing Taiwan. Schools however are being fined by the MOE for having black or white foreign teachers in their schools.
These conflicting regulations by different Ministries are a direct result of Taiwan government infighting over regulatory control for the lucrative ESL industry on Taiwan.
Since the MOE lost control of foreign teachers visa issuance they have intuited steps to control books, materials, test and private school licenses.
A.
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