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Errors Indonesians make while speaking English

 
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Joined: 26 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Errors Indonesians make while speaking English Reply with quote

Hi,

I was trying to put together a list of errors Indonesians make while speaking English. I need many more. So far I have a few.

* Use of 'please' to mean 'go right ahead' (translating 'silakan.')

*Using 'to be' before verbs or in other wrong places
"I am love you." "I am like dog."

*Using 'ever' wrongly: "I have ever been to Bandung."

*Not pronouncing 'x' correctly. "Bok" instead of "Box."


Please help me by adding numerous other examples.
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El Llama



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The past tense is often tricky. A lot of my students say either, "I already go" or, "I was go."
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GuruStip



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I am very boring in my school"
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indonesians often have problems with using articles and prepositions correctly.
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gugelhupf



Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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Location: Jabotabek

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Final plosives and consonant clusters seem to be the most problematic, combined with Kalashnikov-like sentence intonation. I spend some time with most of my classes with students reading aloud and concentrating on pronunciation as they read. Some of the -ed past tense endings seem particularly troublesome such as "cooked" or "asked".
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guruengerish



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Indonesian faults with English Reply with quote

Some that readily come to mind are:

pronouncing "P" as "F", so that a Panther car is called a Fanther. Or a calendar has Nopember.

Saying 'yes' to a question where the answer should really have been 'no'.

"you don't want to jump off this bridge, do you?"

"Yes"

The 'ever' one, as mentioned is very common. Any ideas?

"I go home" is a good example of the non-use of tense in their language. "Saya pulang".
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opo



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often students confuse him/her she/he because in Indonesian there areen't these types of terms just dia for both.

Quote:
what will be will be just let it be Wink
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alicantik



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Have you ever married?" instead of "Are you married?"
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wooskie



Joined: 04 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually i ran across a somewhat comprehensive link to what u might be looking for follow this link i think it was put together by an ex EF Bandung or Surabaya teacher

http://www.xentana.com/articles/indo_english.htm

some of the ones it lists are

Can you...?
Do you can speak English?
Apakah anda bisa...?

Could you repeat that?
Could you repeat again?
Bisa diulangi sekali lagi?

from...to
from...until
dari...sampai

She speaks Japanese.
She speaks Japanese language.
Dia berbicara bahasa Jepang.

Thank you for coming.
Thank you for your coming.
Terima kasih atas kedatangan Anda.

Thank you in advance.
Thanks beforehand.
Terima kasih sebelumnya.

to go by [bus, car, etc.]
to use [transportation]
pakai [transportation]

to look forward to s.t.
[no Indonesian equivalent]


to put on/wear [clothing]
to use [article of clothing]
pakai [article of clothing]

to take off [clothing]
to open [article of clothing]
buka [article of clothing]


along with others common problems hope that helps
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from my experience:

three, through etc

nests, tests, gasps etc
basil
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guruengerish



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Indonesian Reply with quote

Re the above regarding transport, note that Indonesians travel 'naik'.
Naik kuda, naik bis/bus, naik sepeda, naik mobil. whereas in English we ride a horse, catch or travel on a bus, (U.S. take) ride a bike, or go by /drive a car.

The terms Bis and bus seem to be interchangeable. Bus is used in Jakarta more.

"Travel' is not a verb in Indonesian. It is not even a travel agency. It refers to the small bus services, shuttling around between cities. You can make a book days ahead, they collect you and drop you off at the front door. A good, cheap service, but often compressed, hot and hair-raising! All good fun.
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derya



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aks---instead of ask

I go first----saya pergi dulu (when they want to leave before you)
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ps2_machine



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you speak Indonesia?
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derya



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just know the basics to get by-----makes life easier when u r travelling/shopping Wink
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