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arodeorowdy



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 125
Location: Shenzhen, China

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Update on [b]English Me. [/b] Reply with quote

I called Kim of English Me on the phone and he was furious about this information I posted. He said I put bad things on the net. I said NOT ...I posted the facts! So Kim said, "I'll put something on there saying it's buLLS#it", your free to do what you want I said. Then Kim told me,"BEFORE YOU POSTED THIS INFORMATION I was 60% sure Alex and I would hire you back", I laughed at that one Laughing 60%...yea, whatever you say Kim. I haven't heard from them for 7 days BEFORE THIS PHONE CONVERSATION one hour ago, and that's what Kim tells me.

Kim is not a bad guy...he's only the messenger, it's the Taiwanese owner Alex who's the crook/scammer in this picture and the owner of English Me.

So the bottom line is Kim told me English Me WILL NOT PAY ME! Or the Russian girl. As far as the other guy it looks like he's going back to his job with English Me. Yea, his salary was the carrot I'm sure Shocked

So I got burned by English Me. This just adds to all the rest of my experience in the China Zone. English Me -www.englishme.org / email: [email protected]

Cheers, Rowdy4Bush
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 2024
Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post reminds me of the story of the 3 kids looking at a pile of poo on the ground. The first kids says, 'It looks like doo doo". The second kid gets a stick and pokes it and says, "It feels like doo doo". DOES THE 3RD KID REALLY HAVE TO TASTE IT TO KNOW IT IS DOO DOO!

If you take a job somewhere and the other people working there tell you they haven't been paid large sums of money for long periods of time or have otherwise been lied too or scammed do you really have to taste it to know it's sh#t !?!

You should have cut your loses before they got big - realized when you got scratched that the wound would get bigger.

When I came to my job I heard some BAD stories directly from someone who worked here. I decided if things were indeed true I would pack up and leave without notice or before my losses or threats to my personal safety or comfort mounted. I am lucky, I am happy working here and the University staff and students are very friendly and pleasant to work with.
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Babala



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Henan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arodeorowdy,
You hear the expression, it's the principle of the matter. One thing I learned in China is to forget that saying. I would suggest you just forget it and move on. You are going to go to all this trouble and frustration and probably end up with nothing anyway. I have been burned myself before, you just hope karma will get them in the end.
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arodeorowdy



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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Location: Shenzhen, China

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Thanks to you guys Reply with quote

jeffinflorida - your absolutely right. One of my friends was not being paid back in Nov. but he's Italian, so I thought they didn't really value him so that's why. Another kid I knew had problems too, but I thought it's not me. At those signs I should've wised up to how English Me works.
And to think...I worked everyday for 7 weeks straight for them, Sun. thru Sun. I wanted to go to 6 days a week, but Kim kept asking me to continue till the end of the term. Also, Jin Long continued to ask me and the other F/T there to break our contract with English Me so they could save money and pay give us a raise; 1,500 kuai more! We didn't do it out of loyality to English Me. So this is how they treat a loyal teacher?
Babala - thank you, but I'm gonna stay around here for a while.
I just remembered while I was on the phone with Kim yesterday he asked me, "where do you live"?. I didn't think about it until now, but does anyone think they'll send the goon squad to take care of me? They don't do that over a situation like this do they??? Hmmm.
Rowdy4Bush
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Babala



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Henan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arodeorowdy,
Just to clarify, I meant move on to another school, not leave China! Hell if everyone left after getting burned for money, there would be a lot less of us here!
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arodeorowdy



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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Location: Shenzhen, China

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Move on... Reply with quote

oh okay. I gotcha now Babala. Thank's again for your offer.
A few questions for you if I may?
What kind of hours a week do your positions require?
What age group are the students?
What kind of housing?
Cheers, Rowdy4Bush
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Ricepaddy



Joined: 14 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry to arrive late on the scene, so to speak, but this just caught my attention...

Quote:
I worked everyday for 7 weeks straight for them


...do I need to add anything to that? I'm really, REALLY sorry for your troubles, arodeorowdy, but it has to be said, more fool you. SEVEN WEEKS?!?!?
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:46 am    Post subject: ..... Reply with quote

every day for seven weeks? what kind of salary were they paying for that amount of work? i learned quickly after my time in korea and taiwan that once i worked a certain number of hours per week (anything over 20 for me) that the quality of my work dropped drastically. as a result, i never take jobs where i have to do more than 12-15 classes a week. 49 days straight with no break tho?!?!?! far too much.
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monju



Joined: 30 Oct 2004
Posts: 89
Location: Wutaishan, China

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you threaten them?
I had a similar experience and finally got a large part of the money back by threatening to expose the other party.
Well good luck anyway.
And to some of the people who replied, why can't some of you be a little bit kinder. Everbody f#%ks up sometime or other. When things like this happen one feels really rotten - why make people feel even worse? We should support one another.
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Ricepaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And to some of the people who replied, why can't some of you be a little bit kinder. Everbody f#%ks up sometime or other.


I don't mean to be unkind. Like you said, Monju, we all have are moments. Perhaps hours. Sometimes days. Maybe even a week.

But SEVEN WEEKS!!!! I'm sure Arodeorowdy is a kind, decent, honest, likeable guy, but SEVEN WEEKS!!! Jaysis...

I doubt he'll make the same mistake again...
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arodeorowdy



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ricepaddy - when I said I worked for English Me for 7 weeks straight what I ment was: I was loyal. I only worked because they continued to prod me to finish out the semester. I had my regular Mon-Fri classes and 2 different classes on Sat. & Sun. After I got caught up on my bills then I no longer wanted to work this much overtime, but I continued cuz I was asked to and so (being a newbie) I wanted to do a good job for my new agency. This was last Oct.-Dec. and I was paid for this time; yup, all 7 weeks. My problems arose when I let it be known that I may not return to my job after Winter/Spring vacation. Then the troubles started when they did not deposit my Jan. salary into my bank account on Feb. payday. After I returned to China I repeatedly tried to get paid and they finally flat out refused; their reason was bcuz I posted this thread!

I hope this clears things up and makes me look not-so-foolish.

Mabuhay, rowdy
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Sgt Killjoy



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could something like this happen in the worker's paradise called China? It is a dcitatorship of the proletariat, isn't it?
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Bet



Joined: 14 May 2004
Posts: 354

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the name, "ENGLISH ME!"
A new expletive.

Also love "a poultry sum" ... not chicken-feed ! Razz Picky, picky ...
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Zero Hero



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks to you guys Reply with quote

arodeorowdy wrote:
And to think...I worked everyday for 7 weeks straight for them, Sun. thru Sun. I wanted to go to 6 days a week, but Kim kept asking me to continue till the end of the term.

No offence, but you are a mug. They must have seen you coming.
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Zero Hero



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ricepaddy wrote:
I don't mean to be unkind. Like you said, Monju, we all have are moments.

I don't understand this. Do you mean 'our moments', not 'are moments'?
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