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gregoryfromcali
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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:24 am Post subject: Would you accept 560 in Taipei? |
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Hey Everybody,
I am still getting ready for Taiwan.
I have been offered a at 560 an hour. Do you think I could find a job that pays much more? I have over two years of experience, a CELTA and a degree.
I am hoping to save about a grand ($US) a month. With the high cost of living in Taipei should I keep looking?
I remember that there was a website that shows the cost of living in Taipei. Does anyone have the link?
Thanks in advance.
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gregoryfromcali
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe I should have asked, "What do you consider decent pay?" |
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wood
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| gregoryfromcali wrote: |
| Maybe I should have asked, "What do you consider decent pay?" |
Decent pay is 600/hr.
If your sole reason for being here is to earn money, then that may not even be decent.
I've worked for 500 an hour and had no complaints. But I wanted to be here
for my own personal reasons. And it was easy to make a decent living off of that. However, it wouldn't be easy to save $1000 (U.S.) per month on that unless you were working 150 hours per month. |
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gregoryfromcali
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks I wanted to find out if this was a fair deal.
I am not coming just for money but it would be nice to have the best of both worlds.
It sounds like 560 is not a bad place to start and I think that is good enough for me. |
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wood
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| gregoryfromcali wrote: |
Thanks I wanted to find out if this was a fair deal.
I am not coming just for money but it would be nice to have the best of both worlds.
It sounds like 560 is not a bad place to start and I think that is good enough for me. |
Your attitude will help you more than you know. A lot of schools are turned off by teachers who make certain demands before proving themselves. What they fail to realize is that hard work may be rewarded. My best advice for in-coming teachers is to work hard and let the rest take care of itself. If it doesn't, then move on. |
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| wood wrote: |
| Your attitude will help you more than you know. A lot of schools are turned off by teachers who make certain demands before proving themselves. What they fail to realize is that hard work may be rewarded. My best advice for in-coming teachers is to work hard and let the rest take care of itself. If it doesn't, then move on. |
This is some of the best advice I have ever read on this forum. Spot on! |
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Aristotle
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: |
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In previous years I would have said that 560 NT$ an hour is below average. Unfortunately average wages are falling on Taiwan for foreign teachers.
Try looking at as many positions that are available to you and take the one you feel most comfortable with.
Please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck!
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clark.w.griswald
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Aristotle wrote: |
| In previous years I would have said that 560 NT$ an hour is below average. Unfortunately average wages are falling on Taiwan for foreign teachers. |
Once again, this is not correct. As long as you keep suggesting this Aristotle, I will continue posting a request for you to substantiate this claim.
If you look at the wages information for last year over at Buxiban.com, and then compare this to current job offerings, it is clear that wages have remained steady or may have even increased slightly.
It is however more difficult to secure quality work with adequate hours as there is a lot more competition in the market now. Pay rates have not been affected by any of this.
I think that NTD560 is a perfectly reasonable starting wage, particularly if it includes training, a curriculum to teach from, and good block hours at one school in a legal position.
If you want a higher starting wage you may find that you can only get this at a school that doesn't offer training or a curriculum, can only offer a few hours, or is unable to offer you legal work. |
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wix
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| I have been offered a at 560 an hour. Do you think I could find a job that pays much more? I have over two years of experience, a CELTA and a degree. |
You are an experienced teacher. Someone straight off the plane with no teaching experience would be paid the same. I suggest looking around a bit more. Unfortunately qualifications and experience are often not particularly valued in Taiwan. |
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Ki
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Are these working hours or teaching hours? It depends on what you want out of your job. If you work in a buxiban then you will probably get a teaching only schedule. If you work in a kindergarten then there will also be a lot of time spent doing non-teaching work. Sometimes the kindy will include this in your "hourly pay", others will not. If you are not paid for these hours worked because you are not actually teaching (but still have to be there) then your pay will drop significantly. But this is only really an issue if you work in a kindy. |
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