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Nagoyaguy



Joined: 15 May 2003
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Location: Aichi, Japan

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word of advice. Do NOT do drugs in Japan. In fact, if you are around any people who are doing drugs, even smoking a joint, LEAVE. Leave immediately. If the cops get wind of what was happening and bust those people, YOU the gaijin will be the first person fingered by the locals as the supplier. The police will believe the locals over you.

Then, you will lose your job. Automatically. No school or eikaiwa will want you, even if you are innocent.

then, you will do time. As was said before, the police can hold you for a month without charging you. You may or may not get a lawyer. IF you get and meet a lawyer, a police officer will be in the room at all times when you are speaking to your lawyer. There are NO confidentiality laws. Any time you have a visitor in prison, you MUST speak Japanese at all time. Again, a guard/cop will be in the room with you at all times. In that month, you WILL confess to your crime. You will be given a confession letter written in Japanese , you will sign it, and a judge will accept it in court. Sayonara.

If you think about goint to Thailand or wherever to indulge over your vacation, think again. As was said, even trace elements of drugs in your blood count as "possession" in Japan. Which means jail time, deportation, and so on. Doesnt matter that you consumed the drugs outside of Japan.

The good news is, beer is available from coin operated vending machines and can be consumed anywhere, at any time.
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Lover



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:
You guys hear about the Nick Baker case?

"Innocent" Brit is doing hard time in Japan for drug smuggling.

http://www.phaseloop.com/foreignprisoners/prison-japan01.html


I don't think he was so innocent. A walks into immigration with someone else's suit case. They find drugs then he claims a stanger gave the suit case to him to carry into Japan.

Yea right! Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I saw a documentary once about prision in Japan. It would make most people go crazy.

Thailand is even worst. I heard you get the death penality for drugs.


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Lover



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fizayded wrote:
well, strictly from an economical standpoint, I believe the going rate for a dub or joint is gonna be about 5000 yen, or about 50 bucks. So pretty expensive, I know a guy who could probbbbably get stuff, but then again, ehh... it can wait, and least I wont get years in california just for getting high. The drugs of choice in this country are alcohol, cigarettes and work.


You forgot sex!!!!! Twisted Evil
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lover wrote:

I don't think he was so innocent. A walks into immigration with someone else's suit case. They find drugs then he claims a stanger gave the suit case to him to carry into Japan.


That makes him stupid. Not guilty. It may be an unlikely set of events, but it's probably unlikely circumstances like those that get people into trouble like that...

Before you assume otherwise, please read Nick Baker's own account of what happened (here: http://www.justicefornickbaker.org/en/n_letter.htm ). It wasn't quite so simple as just claiming that a stranger gave him a random suitacase to carry into Japan... I think most people wouldn't be quite so gullible as to accept a straight-forward offer... "Hey mate... Wanna make a hunded quid? Take this through customs for me, will you?"
It didn't happen that way.
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Doglover



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is currently an Australian girl locked up in an Indonesian jail Was found at Bali airport with 4 kilos of marijuana in her surf bag. She says she doesnt know about it and it was planted there.

She is looking at a mandatory 20 year sentence if she pleads guilty and the death penalty if she pleads innocent. the sentencing phase will be announced shortly.

By the way 4 Australians including one woman, got busted last week in Southeast Asia for drugs. In Thailand I think they machine-gun convicted drug-runners.
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Nagoyaguy



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Thailand I think they machine-gun convicted drug-runners.


Good for Thailand! That sounds about right to me.

Although a waste of bullets............. one each would do if placed properly.
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ryuro



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

Tokyo has one of the most amazing clubbing scenes in the world- and drugs are a part of it.

And the Japanese are kidding themselves when they try to tell you or anyone else that Japanese don't do drugs.

Yes, they're slightly harder to come by.

Yes, they're obscenely expensive.

Yes, you have to make a connection to find them.

Yes, you're TOTALLY f---ed if you get caught as everyone has rightly pointed out here. However, during all my years of clubbing in Japan I've known no one nor have I ever even HEARD of anyone being caught (only the cases of people mailing/carrying drugs into Japan).

Do 'em or don't- but they will cost you a heap of money and the consequences are heinous if caught.
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Lister100



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beer and cigarrettes's are cheap. Just change your diet while you're here. There's always a way to escape reality, or in the case of Japan the reality of your surreality, if thats what you're aiming to do.
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joncharles



Joined: 09 Apr 2004
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently three U.S. servicemen were caught with E. They claimed to have gotten it from Roppongi. The Tokyo Government cracked down on Shinjuku a while ago and now they say they plan on cleaning up Roppongi. Availability will get even worse.

Another point, I friend of mine in Kanagowa, got popped and spent almost a month in Jail. He lost his ECC job, missed the birth of his daughter, and eventually aquitted. His crime was that he associated with known drug users and dealers. So the police assumed he used and sold as well. (Truth is he did until he got married.) He is still in Japan and was able to get a new job. He now has sworn off drugs.. except a brewski now and then.

It still amazes me when I used to work for Nova, while in the teacher's room, how open many of the younger teachers were in bragging about scoring and using drugs.
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Lover



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
Before you assume otherwise, please read Nick Baker's own account of what happened (here: http://www.justicefornickbaker.org/en/n_letter.htm ). It wasn't quite so simple as just claiming that a stranger gave him a random suitacase to carry into Japan... I think most people wouldn't be quite so gullible as to accept a straight-forward offer... "Hey mate... Wanna make a hunded quid? Take this through customs for me, will you?"
It didn't happen that way.


Look no matter how a stranger convinced him to bring suitcase through custums. A suitcase he does not know what is inside when the world is all parnoid about terrorist, and throughout modern times about drugs. I'm sorry I think their a much better causes than his.
In just about every country the law states bringing drugs into that country is a crime.

Anyway, I don't want to start a debate. In fact, I am not going to this thread anymore. I just think people should think twice before having anything to do with drugs while living or traveling abroad. As someone posted a foreigner caught with drugs makes all of us here in Japan look bad.
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fizayded



Joined: 17 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lover wrote:
fizayded wrote:
well, strictly from an economical standpoint, I believe the going rate for a dub or joint is gonna be about 5000 yen, or about 50 bucks. So pretty expensive, I know a guy who could probbbbably get stuff, but then again, ehh... it can wait, and least I wont get years in california just for getting high. The drugs of choice in this country are alcohol, cigarettes and work.


You forgot sex!!!!! Twisted Evil


Japanese people dont have sex, they just use porn.
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SEndrigo



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not actual porn....it's PORN COMIC BOOKS, so get it right ! Smile

Who needs sex when you can get 80-90 hour workweeks, and porn comic books at the local convenience store?

What better high can you get than that????
Laughing

But I must say, the (real, not caricature) girls on the cover of those comic books are absolute stunners !!

It's true, good covers DO sell books eh !
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ndorfn



Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyH wrote:
Stay home if you want to get stoned. We don't need anymore foreigners here giving the rest of us a bad image.


yeah, boo hoo andyh, I'm sure the guys serving time are just cut right up about giving "us foreigners" a bad name. No one has the responsibility of living up to any moral standards so some racists can re-adjust their image of you.

To the OP, it's pretty all much been said. It's all available, but expensive and risky. If you can't be bothered paying the prices, you'll end up like a lot of us here, carrying out involuntary experiments in drug-deprivation.

I've never heard of random drug testing though, so holidays abroad are still an option.
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stillnosheep



Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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Location: eslcafe

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irishmark: as i understand it the ecstacy scene her is so small or non-existent that the locals wouldn't know the difference between MDMA and ketamine/speed/caffeine if they were offered a controlled test.

Assume you will never have a tab for as long as you are here. If you happen to be the one in a million then you will be lucky.

Don't bring it in. Don't look for it. The penalties are too severe.

If it happens to find you anyway, thank Buddha and rejoice.

ps. 20 hrs with only 1 cigarette and I seem to be over the (1st) hump.
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guest of Japan



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ps. 20 hrs with only 1 cigarette and I seem to be over the (1st) hump.


Good luck. I need to follow in your footsteps.
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