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teph13



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject: teaching opportunities in guang dong Reply with quote

I was thinking about teaching english in guang dong. Does anyone have any suggestions as to which schools to look to first? Or perhaps I should avoid that province altogether? I'm at a loss as to what to do...I'd be traveling to China from Vietnam most likely, and I'd like to stay somewhat south.

Thanks
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junkmail



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try this site, while your waiting for more replies:
http://www.buxiban.com
It has job postings for Guang dong
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Robbie



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Teaching in Guangdong Province Reply with quote

I am a teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College. I would recommend applying to our college. If you want more details they have just posted an advertisement on Daves. OR you can email me at [email protected]
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Roger



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard of 'guang dong', but I know there is a province Guangdong, due east from Hanoi. It probably has China's most FT jobs. About 600 km separate Guangzhou from the Vietnamese border. Then, there are two dozen other towns in the province.
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writpetition



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am a teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College. I would recommend applying to our college. If you want more details they have just posted an advertisement on Daves. OR you can email me at [email protected]


Robbie, does your recommendation to apply to Guangdong Peizheng College also extend to non-white, non-UK/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/US teachers? Or is your college also bitten by the same "Native English speaker. From UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Ireland" (copy/pasted from an ad) bug?

Of course, you need not answer if you please. We (or at least, I) will understand what that means.
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Robbie



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 8:13 am    Post subject: Pei Zheng College Reply with quote

We currently have over seventy foreign teachers from many countries. It is a multiracial, multicultural mix of people, including black Canadian and American, Native Indian Canadian, Malaysian, Philipino, Indonesian, Pakistani, Indian, Chinese Canadian and American and us whiteys too. The FAO does not practice any policy of racial discrimination including the 'Chinese look' thing. The teachers range from new graduates to retired accountants and senior managers. The students relish the variety of teachers they have. In addition, the FAO handles all visa and salary affairs in an almost perfect manner. Having worked in other institutions in China, my wife and I along with most other teachers find Pei Zheng to be almost unique in these respects.
As I said in my earlier post, email me if you would like more info - and NO, I am not acting as their agent!!
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teph13



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at all sorts of different websites and job boards/forums trying to figure out what the best thing to do would be. It almost seems like I just need to get over there and see first hand what I'd be getting involved in. I just feel a little strange signing on to a place before actually seeing it in person.

Any comments on just going there and looking for work?

Also, would it be illegal to head over there and look for work under the pretenses that I'm just visiting and then apply for the Z visa when I get a job offer?

Thanks for any helpful commentary you can give.
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Robbie



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Guangdong Reply with quote

It is not illegal to come and look for work on a tourist visa. BUT beware - some places will try to get you to work on either a tourist or business visa - these are not legal and, if found out, you could be deported. Any good employer will arrange the work visa and residence permit for you. The most annoying thing is that you will probably have to leave the country and re-enter on your new visa. A quick trip to HK or South Korea usually does the trick, at your expense.
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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
Never heard of 'guang dong', but I know there is a province Guangdong

Perhaps 'Roger' could furnish the forum � and Chinese linguists � with his postulated procedure for converting pictographic characters to alphabetic script, especially in the area of word formation.

He can not so do though as such a procedure does not exist. They are but (differing) conventions. What in one (Pinyin) Chinese language journal is one word, can be three or four in another. But then 'Roger' would not know that, would he?
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sigmoid



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am a teacher at Guangdong Peizheng College.


Isn't it actually called Peizhang Commercial College or is that a different place?

Is this the school that has a 3-month probationary period during which your salary is even lower than normal? Or maybe that's another school?
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writpetition



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, Robbie! I will be writing you soon. If the school really is what you say it is, it will be a pleasant surprise to find work there.

Cheers!
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Robbie



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was called Pei Zheng Commercial College, but after receiving a four year accreditation and permission to award BA degrees the name was changed to Guangdong Peizheng College. There is no three month probation period and full salary is paid from day one. If you want further info pm me. In fact the college even pays the FT's in advance for the Christmas holiday of ten days, which I have never heard of anywhere else.
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DKatz



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero said

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Perhaps 'Roger' could furnish the forum � and Chinese linguists � with his postulated procedure for converting pictographic characters to alphabetic script, especially in the area of word formation.



Why do you always make comments about spelling and grammar? Who made you the grammar police? Do you have anything to add that is of value or are you just trying to riel people? You must have too much time on your hands with only working 10 hours a week. Oh, I forgot you are studying for a PHD, so that must make you clever then the rest of us. Based on your interpersonal skills on this forum I would say you made the right choice getting a PHD so then you can do research and do not have to deal with students.

Now do you have anything to say of value to the OP?
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DKatz



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To OP,

There are a number of schools in Guangdong. You could look into the Fountain School and The Bond Institute.

www.bond-institute.com

Good Luck.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:
Roger wrote:
Never heard of 'guang dong', but I know there is a province Guangdong

Perhaps 'Roger' could furnish the forum � and Chinese linguists � with his postulated procedure for converting pictographic characters to alphabetic script, especially in the area of word formation.

He can not so do though as such a procedure does not exist. They are but (differing) conventions. What in one (Pinyin) Chinese language journal is one word, can be three or four in another. But then 'Roger' would not know that, would he?


I am in favour of a uniform romanised spelling such as has been adopted in China in the form of pinyin, which is robustly logical and rigorously follows established practices such as capitalising initials of proper names (Guangdong) and writing in one name what constitutes one name (Guangdong).
To separate syllables is not necessary and in fact only adds to confusion. I even think it illogical. Chinese characters are not separated either; in fact whole sentences are grouped together, separated only by punctuation marks (which are borrowed from the West!). This is the way Latin used to be written before the 12th or so century, when it was the language of the elites. If you really want to popularise CHinese - or Mandarin - then you adopt a graphic representational form that is easy to grasp and easy to use: write words or names in one block separted from others by spaces. All other attempts - capitalising initials of syllables such as GuangDong, or separating each syllable such as Guang Dong - look amateurish and confusing. There are very few instances when a special mark is needed to indicate the boundary between two syllables (and Chinese characters), and those instances can be taken care of by using an apostrophe (') as is normally done in "Ji'nan" or "Xi'an". This way anyone can see the name is composed of two characters.
THis is not a new idea; it has consistently been in use officially since the pinyinisation programme was launched. Why go back on progress?
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